Barry12

i saw one once with a range of 17C where? all i see is lows of 5C

yeah some of the ranges are laughable.

Braemar has already got snow this Autumn.

Definitely. http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/explosive-katla-could-affect-g/30707

i know the feeling.

Could be highs of 5C here according to the GFS.

Ok, I apologize Chino

Err..no? your the one going on about the stratosphere like its the holy gospel, not the only jigsaw in the puzzle. I think the Jetsream is MUCH more important, with it so far south, any westerlys we get will be at a minimum. Which will force the arctic and easterlys too take charge, regardless of how warm the stratosphere is.

Trolls are what ruin this forum

The amount of times Joe B has banged on about the Europe weather being cold, if it does turn out mild he will be taken as serious as James Madden is.

Piers Corbyn said at the start of October there will be a cold spell at the end of October, if it comes off that is impressive lol.

November cold, December mild because of the stratosphere, and January cold and February cold as stratosphere warms. So a cold Stratosphere now or even in a few weeks does not mean disaster.

According to the Met, November look's like a below average month. Maybe even snow at low levels in the north east at the end of October.

No, I'm pretty sure I don't have it!

Been looking at Accuweathers and Netweathers forecasts for my area from the 26th October until November, all saying highs of 7. Chilly.

Are you saying I am doylem haha? I did just post some cold charts for the end of October.

A lapse of Doylemness came over me

Things change every day like you said, so how do you know the end of next week won't change to mild

Anyway being more positive, cold spell at the end of October. http://www.meteociel...&ech=144&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=150&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=156&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=162&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=168&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=174&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=180&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=186&mode=1 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=192&mode=1

Obviously Joe B is talking nonsense, since the stratosphere is below average.

Barry's Winter Forecast A Repeat of November 2010? November: November will start of very mild, highs of 14C in the north and 16C in the south. Rainfall will be average or just below. Highs of 10-13C in Scotland with above average rainfall. By mid November it will cool down to average temperatures. Frost will start to return for Scotland and Northern England. Rainfall will be around average for this period too. By the end of November blocking around Greenland will force arctic air down the UK, Scotland and Northern England will turn exceptionally cold, struggling to get above freezing in Scotland and highs of 1-2C in the North. The south will be milder at 4-5C. By the very end of November snow will start falling across Scotland and Northern England. Rain/sleet in the South. December: Coming Soon!

CYA WINTER

That makes no sense at all.

People see one mild chart and suddenly think it means winters over