summer blizzard

This is more of a Channel Low that's a bit too far north, similar to March. While we do get epic events from the east or north (6th Jan 10, 2nd Dec 10), a lot of time the frontal air is too dry and you get small flakes and blowy dust snow, the great snow from the east is shower based. Sliding Atlantic fronts (low west of Ireland, SE winds ahead of the front) deliver probably the best frontal snow as per 31st December 03, multiple Jan 13 events as these are the fat flake events. Turned to rain here at some point after 1am. It's drizzle at the moment as the front has just about cleared.

.. The answer is that this is the warm front (triple point is near Bristol) so it's just a simple matter of us being further north since the front has a fair bit of eastward movement so it's not moving north fast. Since South Yorkshire is deeper in the front it's getting warmer air aloft. Much heavier now, grit overpowered.

I have just under an inch but mainly because it's quite wet snow. Snowed since about 4pm here.

Snow just about going now so a few hours of snizzle before the main system.

Front has arrived and immediately snow in BD19. Top of the front is flat so it looks like we are near the northern edge. Only time I recall was Feb 2nd 09. Sleet in Leeds City Center, snow in BD11 and Bradford City Center. About 7 inches at the airport.

Just looking ahead to tonight. GFS says snow from about 10pm before turning to rain after about 1am. BBC says sleet from about 4pm through 5am before turning to rain for another 24 hours. Not sure it's lasting that long. Met Office says snow for 2 hours between 6-8 and then a gap until rain from 1am. Radar does suggest it's moving fairly quickly.

Despite the CET, this Autumn has actually not been one that should be remembered for unrelenting warmth. September and October basically saw warm opening thirds (at near record pace) followed by fair average two thirds. November actually kept the warmth for longest.

Snow arrived, large Flakes.

Radar looks good to me, solid nice band now.

Stuff now approaching Hendon Bridge is much further north than previous showers. This should bring us into the game.

There's a gap but the stuff leaving Wales looks further north. If it leaves Manchester north of the M62 then we should be fine.

As stated earlier, it's basically moving ENE along the M62 but we need something that extends just north of the M62 when it leaves Manchester.

Annoyingly the snow is literally 5 miles south east.

The alignment is still good but too far south though convection west has exploded and so will hopefully still move east. Annoyingly it looks like the reformation after the shadow has been gold for Doncaster.

More optimistic despite the marginality. System is more organized and it should have cold air north of the front. Snow above 100m provided it reaches here. .... Second blob tracking along the M62 and approaching Huddersfield.

Yeah, looks like the atmosphere has been moistened which is why the poster above saw light rain when it went light but it should allow further reinforcement to survive. Next blob is inbound for Huddersfield at reasonable strength.

Actual precipitation is surviving longer now. About to arrive in Ripponden and Holmfirth if we have anybody around.

Sadly I was too young to remember that. I recall vague memories of summer warmth in 94 and the sun in 95 and the snow in early 96 and 97, the snow of April 98 and then the rains of 00. Was only 5 years old in Jan 95 granted.

Remember to ignore the lightest blue on radar because it's just thick cloud/snizzle. Alarmingly it looks like a shadow effect so the first two pulses have disappeared upon passing Rochdale and look like they are reforming just east of the M1 thus far. That could be strength related so it may not persist but that would be horrific away from perhaps Wakefield.

Can see the system approaching from the WSW. Dark, solid clouds towards the Pennines.

Alignment looks pretty good. Almost direct for Bradford and York in a straight line from back to front though as the whole things shifts east this alignment will move east. Also looks like it's intensifying as it's starting to hit higher ground. Estimate is still 2-3 hours but it should last a while unless your unlucky and it's south of you. Would say that early in the night Bradford, Leeds and York are best, depending on how fast it shifts east, Huddersfield and Sheffield could end up having the last laugh.

Heaviest was 21cm from a single event on 6th Jan 2010 but that was at about 200m and falling onto existing snowcover several centimeters deep and iced with a 10 hour event. Other than that I recall New years Eve 2003, massive flakes for 6 hours, 9cm.

Where? North West thread reporting snow from the get go.

Looking at the radar it's actually already over North Wales so it should be here by 5-6. Usual caveat below 100m but I think everybody else should be fine.

Our snow develops over North Wales by about 6 and moves ENE.