....I really must try not to get drawn in by the mod thread next autumn.... They're still at it wrt this ebbing winter but, personally, I'm sure it's futile now (happy to be wrong tho) but I have spent hours following various interpretations trying to learn something on the way, but in hindsight there seems to be so much hope casting intertwined with the more knowledgeable posts. I find it difficult to filter and understand properly. Sometimes you'd think the models actually controlled the weather the way some posters 'talk'. I love winter weather, but I also love the spring and summer more.