Snow Grain

I wouldn't pay much attention to those charts. The precipitation will be mainly rain, maybe snow on high ground up north for a while.

Round 2?

Think it's the other way around. I'm 53 and can only count a handful of hot summers and that includes 1976 on the other hand since 1979 there has been many more cold winters!

I expect it's just another random tease based on computer modelling that in reality cannot cope with the chaotic weather. My 9 year old daughter could scribble a more accurate output chart with her crayon set!

Totally agree, some people on here seem to trust every output especially when it's showing the weather they want! It's just a load of very expensive computers churning out pot luck charts. The met office know that there isn't a computer that could predict 2 weeks ahead because weather is always chaotic, that's why chart matching never works! I can see a cold outbreak occurring within 2 weeks from the Northeast. That's what the tea leaves in the bottom of my cup are telling me anyway!

Look on the bright side, at least we'll all be battle hardened for next winters model watching!

Maybe but if you take a break from moaning you might feel a little better!

Zzzzzzzzz stop moaning people, it's only weather. Take a break from the models for a week!

The angle of the low and the retreating block will mean wet & windy rather than wintry. Snow on high ground in the north.

I heard on the radio there may be hosepipe bans by April because we are currently having the wrong type of rain! Lol

Very informative and it tells it's own story really that no one can forecast an upcoming season. I disagree that this current winter couldn't have been as cold as 2009/10, if the Synoptics are right then the winter could have been exceptional for cold. No one could foresee the winters of 1947 and 1963 but you could argue that the science wasn't as great then. What about 2009/10, this was when, with improved science the met office forecast that it would be a milder than average winter! I believe that was their last seasonal forecast.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to today's outputs and write off cold weather, after all where has believing in the charts got us since last November! As we go through the latter part of winter our window of opportunity for the real cold temperatures does decrease though so we would need the perfect wind direction I.e long fetch Siberian easterly. As we progress through March that then needs to be north of east with northerlies then favorite to be our last chance at the far reaches of winter due to the eventual continental warm up!

You missed off 28 days later, Misery and On the waterfront!

I know emotions can get high in here but all I have done is give my opinion on how things will play out this week by looking at the current outlook models. This also means that I may not agree on the projected 2m temperature charts, I believe the temperatures will be 2-3 degrees higher unless subsequent model outputs change of course. You seem to be insisting that the current output is set in stone but we all know that model accuracy is not that great.As far as the temperatures go, I do feel that they are not projected to be anything other than cool, maybe i have spent too long in Alberta! Anyway back to the models, turning cooler but feeling cold compared to what you have been used to this winter, turning milder by the end of the week. This is based on today's output from the main models which show a short spell of easterlies replaced at the end of the week by Atlantic driven weather. Although an undercut low would help, the real issue is that the hp to the northeast is just not extending west enough to have enough influence on the UK weather apart from stalling rain bearing fronts close by.

Trouble is it won't be that cold. It will bring the sort of damp weather that will have us all praying for spring!

Unfortunately it brings more rain. The charts are showing the atlantic strolling across the uk, I doubt if there will be upgrades for coldies. This afternoons ouputs says today's rain clearing then progressively getting cooler and drier through the week before more wet weather with rising temperatures arrives next weekend.

I wouldn't worry about that low as it will be modelled differently closer to the time.Today's wind and rain was modelled to be far more severe 5 days ago.

Don't get sucked in, nothing good ever comes from the west if it's cold you are looking for.

Brecon, with regard to the longevity I was talking about the Uk as a whole as I am not interested in imby!

Yes as I was saying the ECM confirming the shortness of the cool snap!

No one on this forum should take any thing for granted when viewing the charts, they are only a guidance and rarely verify. All outputs should be taken with a large Pinch of salt to avoid disappointment. To be fair most in here knew that the upcoming cold would be watered down with each output. Currently the output is showing a return to a zonal pattern after a very brief cold, damp blip. The ECM will also show this to be the case this evening.

I think with each output through the weekend you will see a watering down of the cold spell. It will probably feel chilly compared to recent weeks, perhaps a bit sleety apart from high ground in the north and heavier showers in the east away from the coast where it may fall as snow. By time we get to next weekend it's back to wind and rain.

Do you mean Gibby?

They all work for the same organisation so there should be continuity in the forecast every half hour whoever the presenter is!