Just a lurker in here, but have utmost respect for the amateurs, the experts and the mods, especially when the models don't have a clue and we have to figure it out TOGETHER..but hate it when it's a cat fight....I also have a three year old to moderate and explaining the lag time between a SSW and a tropospheric response into snow that he can touch is a triffle difficult ... I suspect I will have about two weeks of "are we there yet" coming