cheeky_monkey

im not so sure...every winter the vast majority of Canada above the 50n latitude is covered with snow..last winter huge swathes between 50-55n where either snow free or snow was thin on the ground and patchy.

the graph shown is for North America..no idea how Europe panned out

im not sure about these figures i dont know where they get them from?..for example Canada had its second mildest winter on record in 2011-12 and it was big news how snow free it was nationwide..yet these figures show an above average snow season for last winter?

What factors are they?

Nope couldn't do that with no aircon...18c would be far to warm at night..dont forget 27c in any sun would warm your house up too much and 18c too high for it too cool down..more than one day of this weather your house would just get warmer and warmer

do they do these charts for North America???

September 2000 was very wet

Im saying the last 5 summers could have ended up being hot and dry equally as much as cool and wet..just that when the coin fell it came up heads instead of tales...to say that lower ice levels = poor summers isn't correct IMO..maybe where the ice remains has an effect on the position of the jet in relation to that location?

First snow to appear in Canadian forecast for this season

We are now entering the roller coaster that is Autumn in Canada..had a couple cool days..then will spring back up to 26/27c over the weekend before falling back to 13/14c on Monday and Tuesday..i expect this yo yo pattern to continue for the next 4-6 weeks before winter sets in at the end of October, with each warm and cool spell a degree or two lower than the previous one.

i dont buy this whole melting ice = poor UK summers rubbish...the UK has had runs of crap summers before esp in the 50s, 60s 70s and into the 80s...the result could easily have lead to 5 hot summers dependent where the trough ends up..we are just coming of the back of a relatively hot dry and sunny summer here..but the the previous three were pretty poor..then followed by a mild, cold and very mild winters..so there seems to be no correlation between the ice melt and the type of summer or winter experienced here.

have now dipped below 13hrs of daylight...sunrise 7.01am..sunset 8.00pm

i'm going for 12.8 or is it 18.2

Has been hot and sunny

we managed 34c in Edmonton in the last week of September last year...the hottest i have recorded since i have been in Canada.

i bet you got AC though..i dont mind hot weather if you have AC...if not then its a nightmare. Anyway our mini hot spell has ended we hit 30c Mon and Tues...back down to 20c today.

Yep so many people on here say they would give their high teeth to live where i do..but i would gladly swap a UK winter for my 5-6 months of snow and sub zero temperatures.

It is poor me...being on the receiving end of a cold snowy winter on the Canadian prairies is not a pleasant experience believe me.

who'd have thunk it..its raining this morning...only the 2nd rain day i have had in 2 months...just a blip however as it sunshine and blue skies after today back up to 28/29c by monday again!...anyway Environment Canada are predicting a cold snowy winter for my location

only interior northern BC has very cold winters..the majortiy of BC west of the Rockies is similar to the uk...warmer drier summers slightly colder and slightly wetter winters..obviously the standard of geography teaching has plummeted since i left school

No BC has the mildest winters in Canada..so you weren't paying attention in Geography!

More like British Columbia..albeit northern coastal BC

Living where i do..i get anywhere between 20 -50 storms per year...just thought i would rub it in

to me pattern matching in an isolated location (like the UK) has no merit what so ever. The atmosphere and weather is a global system..you would have to try and match the weather pattern across the whole globe for a particular point in time for it to have any chance of working..bit like throwing a million dice..then trying to predict the outcome of the next throw just by looking at a few thousand dice and ignoring the rest.

Seems im the only one in here these days? anyway seems like the summer outlook for western Canada is proving to be correct July was relatively hot and sunny and August is looking like it could well finish up the same way...another hot and sunny 5 days coming up with temps close to 30c...mind you i had my first ground frost this morning