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So Mr Devonian ,,, yes all graphs start at zero ,, but all the ice gained from last season hasn't disappeared has it ? it's still there , that is what I was trying to demonstrate , and as you can see from the other graphic's ,,nothing is melting at the moment , and there I was thinking I would bring a little happy news to the people that seem very concerned about Greenland , or do you like making people think all the ice is melting ? let me put a question directly to you , did last season's ice gain disappear ?

no Mr Wolf , I am not aware of what you speak of , I am only aware of the scientific research that is going on , here on this planet , as we speak ,,, the things you are talking about are alien to me , they do not reflect the current state of scientific understanding of the world we live in , I have provided many paper on the current level of understanding of the global systems that govern our wold ,,, but you will not be swayed , buy reason , or science the world is not going to end if a fiery ball any time soon , and very soon , a different set of circumstances will present themselves , and the ones that reposted untruths , will have blood on their hands the one's that propagated lies , will be the villains , but their arrogance will save them from any feeling of guilt

First published: 14 December 2017 - Modeling the Dynamics of the Atmospheric Boundary Layer Over the Antarctic Plateau With a General Circulation Model https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2017MS001184 “The near‐surface Antarctic atmosphere experienced significant changes during the last decades (Steig et al., 2009; Turner et al., 2006). In particular, the near‐surface air over the Western part of Antarctica exhibits one of the major warming over the globe (Bromwich et al., 2013a), with heating rates larger than 0.5 K per decade at some places. Despite a significant warming in the end of the 20th century, the Antarctic Peninsula has been slightly cooling since 1998, reflecting the high natural variability of the climate in this region (Turner et al., 2016). East Antarctica has experienced a slight cooling trend (Nicolas & Bromwich, 2014; Smith & Polvani, 2017) particularly marked during autumn.”

published 11th Dec 2017 - Low-Frequency Climate Modes and Antarctic Sea Ice Variations, 1982–2013 https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-17-0184.1 “Compelling evidence indicates that the large increase in the SH sea ice, recorded over recent years, arises from the impact of climate modes and their long-term trends. The examination of variability ranging from seasonal to interdecadal scales, and of trends within the climate patterns and total Antarctic sea ice concentration (SIC) for the 32-yr period (1982–2013), is the key focus of this paper. The results herein indicate that a progressive cooling has affected the year-to-year climate of the sub-Antarctic since the 1990s.”

January 2018 -Active layer monitoring in Antarctica: an overview of results from 2006 to 2015 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322398735_Active_layer_monitoring_in_Antarctica_an_overview_of_results_from_2006_to_2015 “Active layer monitoring in Antarctica: an overview of results from 2006 to 2015 … Air temperatures showed significant regional differences within the study areas. In the western Antarctic Peninsula region, Vestfold Hills and northern Victoria Land, a slight air temperature cooling was detected, while at other sites in Victoria Land and East Antarctica the air temperature was more irregular, showing no strong overall trend of warming or cooling during the study period (Figure 2). The Antarctic Peninsula region has been reported as the most rapidly warming part of Antarctica (e.g. Turner et al., 2005, 2014), but cooling has been reported since 2000 (Turner et al., 2016). Relatively stable air temperature conditions during the past 20 years were reported in Victoria Land (Guglielmin & Cannone, 2012).”

Available online 14 April 2018 - Perspectives of Antarctic weather monitoring and research efforts https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873965218300495 “The present paper reviews the progress of India’s scientific research in polar meteorology. The analysis of 25 years meteorological data collected at Maitri station for the period 1991–2015 is presented in the paper. The observed trend in the temperature data of 19 Antarctic stations obtained from READER project for the period 1991–2015 has also been examined. The 25 years long term temperature record shows cooling over Maitri station. The Maitri station showed cooling of 0.054 °C per year between 1991 and 2015, with similar pronounced seasonal trends. The nearby Russian station Novolazarevskaya also showed a cooling trend of 0.032 °C per year. … The temperature trend in average temperature of 19 Antarctica stations is also examined to ascertain the extent of cooling or warming trend (Supplementary Table_S1). The majority of stations in East Antarctica close to the coast show cooling or no significant trend. … Turner et al. (2016) using stacked temperature record found a significant cooling trend for the Antarctic Peninsula for the period 1999–2014.”

a study published on 25th January 2018 on Nature.com https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-19992-w

Mr Wolf , you raise different questions , lets look at them , the earth is slowing down , I could only find an old NASA report from 2003 ( away from the tabloid rags which are full of rubbish ) , which didn't give many answers as to why , although it is known the earth's rotational speed varies and slows and speeds up from time to time ( 5 year periods ) but I believe it was the Guardian that ran with it , it appears to be a paper by Roger Bilham of the University of Colorado in Boulder and Rebecca Bendick of the University of Montana in Missoula , the conclusion in Sciencemag.org was " Bilham and Bendick have only fuzzy, hard-to-test ideas about what might cause the pattern they found" so until they come up with some evidence , it's just a hypothesis , of course that doesn't mean they are wrong , but the globe is in an increased state of volcanic and seismic activity now , and have been for a while so the nice men at NASA might just be covering their backs in case a declining magnetosphere from an oncoming solar minimum causes more volcanic and seismic activity you said " It was a study from sat images between 2008 to 2015 " it was published in February 2018 actually ,,, Received: 25 April 2017 – Discussion started: 4 May 2017 Revised: 21 November 2017 – Accepted: 27 November 2017 – Published: 13 February 2018 I can only read published papers , you may have a Delorean with a flux capacitor , I don't you also said " since 2014, exceeding the rate of change " let's see what NASA say about 2014 new sea ice maximum , well where do you go from a record maximum , I would suggest down ( so did NASA and they were right ) https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum I would point out that none of the scientists I have posted here are " paid deniers " , just scientists trying to find facts , not opinion , not consensus , not belief , but cold hard facts , like science used to be about in the good old days , if Antarctica looses ice due to a storm from anywhere , that's weather , not climate , and I will be watching , with great interest , on how things turn out this year

a point to Mr Void , if you are taking sections out of the conclusion , lets look at this one in 2015 with 78% of the increase in discharge concentrated to glaciers flowing into the Amundsen Sea and another 10% comes from glaciers flowing into Marguerite Bay. Glaciers and ice streams feeding major ice shelves were remarkably steady with small heterogeneous changes in velocity. Strongly negative net mass budgets are apparent for the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and are largely due to mean rates of ice discharge greatly exceeding rates of snow accumulation. The East Antarctic Ice Sheet experienced near-balance conditions with modest gains in Dronning Maud and Enderby Land driven by increased rates of precipitation. Over the last decade, it is evident that larger-scale changes in discharge are relatively modest (< 7% for all basins) compared to the fractional imbalance between discharge and surface mass budget 78% of ice loss coming from west Antarctica into the Amundsen sea the whole of Antarctica is not melting , and using " regional variability" is just a cop out

Well if Sky news say that , it must be right then , all I did was post the most up to date scientific study I could find ,, but if Sky news say me ,and a bunch of scientists are wrong ,, who am I to argue ( in case you missed it , I will post it again below ) https://www.the-cryosphere.net/12/521/2018/tc-12-521-2018.pdf

Totten Glacier I didn't mention the Totten Glacier , because it seems to have slowed , and has been unchanged for a few years now

As Mr Wolf is having trouble with my reference , let attempt to clarify , but before I do , let me state that I made no reference to the Arctic or Greenland , and I certainly didn't question the laws of thermo or hydrodynamics , the point I was trying to make was that the statement " the Antarctic is melting " is not true , some of the Antarctic is melting , but not all , east Antarctic is stable ( as I demonstrated in the study I posted ) it is , in fact making modest gains , to the detriment of the Adélie penguin which nest there , from a colony of 18, 000 individuals only 2 chicks survived due to the distance the adults had to travel to find ice free waters to hunt in , this was blamed on global warming , but the penguins nest in east Antarctica so that's clearly false , and the Thwaites Glacier itself is unusual , all glaciers have a bed ( like a river bed ) which flows downhill to the sea , but the Thwaites bed goes the opposite way , the ice is travelling uphill to reach the sea , so calculating the amount of ice that would reach the sea from the 112 km long and 32 km wide glacier is impossible , and , I would suggest , is why a study is underway , so simply stating that Antarctica is melting is quite wrong

1645 to 1715 was the Maunder minimum , and 1790 to 1830 or 1796 to 1820, corresponding to the period solar cycle 4 to solar cycle 7 or the Dalton minimum

not really so unusual back in the 70's

I would suggest that Antarctica is a very large cog , and one of the first places you would expect to witness warming on a planetary scale , given that it is the coldest place on this particular planet , I see the quote from the excellent Professor Hawking at the bottom of your post Mr Stone , a wise man indeed , my favourite quote , and the reason ( probably ) why I question all the science I see , "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

Foehn winds are a weather phenomena that happen in many parts of the world , and I would suggest have been occurring in Antarctica for a long time , and just because it has only recently been recorded doesn't mean it is a new turn of events , if we are to believe that Antarctica is in grave danger from warming , from sea or air we must look at the continent as a whole , the same way as looking just at the Bering sea as a sign of arctic sea ice is a bad idea as it is open to the influence of the Pacific Ocean , the question would be " is Antarctica warming " , and many here point fingers at the West of the continent , but the east of Antarctica is stable , if the world ,as a whole is warming , why is eastern Antarctica not warming , why has it unchanged ? https://www.the-cryosphere.net/12/521/2018/tc-12-521-2018.pdf

the hypothesis of warm water transference through oceanic currents may be true , but there are some that don't agree with it , or at least think it is less of a contributing factor https://phys.org/news/2017-06-thwaites-glacier-ice-loss-quickly.html

not all glaciers in the world are doing badly though , Greenland’s Petermann glacier for example

well until the research team gets down there and has a good look , we will have to disagree on that point Mr Wolf , time will tell , it won't make any difference to the outcome , but west Antarctica is very active geologically , I would find it difficult to believe that melting there did not have a geological component

the Thwaites glacier in west Antarctica is melting , as it has been doing for some time , due to geothermal activity , which means there is nothing at all we can do about it https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012821X14005780

I used to think that global warming would kill this planet , like many here , but over the last few years I started having a bad feeling about the science that was being spoon fed to me through the media , something didn't feel right about some aspects that were being covered , and thing I have seen , record low temperatures in Russia ( -76 ) this winter , the cold weather in the USA ( which is still going on ) , and of course our own winter , I'm not here to point fingers or call names , but there is something very wrong going on in the world at the moment , I guess as time goes by we will see if any of the climate models turn out to be right

Is the sea level rising ? ( other than the normal rate of 1.5mm + or - 0.2 annually ) - https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-17-0502.1