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3 minutes ago, Martz86 said:
It would be nice to have a model group just for those that know what their talking about, reading through this one is very confusing, shame really as I quite like reading the knowledgeable posts but it's becoming tedious filtering through it all.
Blank pages will never sell !!!
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30 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:That's more to do with how warm the warm bits are then how much cold has been about. The cold signal is wiped away, unless you look back at daily or weekly figures. It has not been mild, the monthly temps don't show the reality anymore.
My gas bill says it has not been a mild Winter so far !!!
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12 hours ago, davehsug said:
In the meantime, what looked like a decent week next week, is quickly slipping down the toilet, especially away from the South & East.
I take it by "decent" then, like most of the country, you mean cool, comfortable nights, no more heatwaves ...... and lots of rain ?
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6 hours ago, Polar Maritime said:
Yep that's why there is a once in a lifetime red meto warning out covering a wide area for extreme heat..
Am I not correct in thinking that these official warnings only started in 2021 ?
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5 minutes ago, markw2680 said:
I think I’m about to blow! Iv just scanned through about 6 pages of waffle on here after work I honestly don’t no whether I’m coming or going tbh! One minute is oh it’s dyer next one is quite snowy then easterly setting up quite honestly I’m lost right now
Blue Noses are easily confused but what's a Dyer ? I have visions of Danny Dyer in front of a weather map, swearing about cold fronts !
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So the edge of that low is going to catch Peterborough before sweeping west ...... isn't it ?!!!!
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So I'm in Peterborough which is Midlands as far as I'm concerned ...... what should I be expecting this weekend ?!!!!
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It will not snow in Peterborough ..... it never snows in Peterborough ...... we have a snowshield protecting us !!!
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24 minutes ago, mb018538 said:
I love Frosty's unerring optimism! But I think one look at this tells it all:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=map&map=Warnings&zoom=5&lon=-3.50&lat=55.50
No weather warning for ice or snow anywhere. That tells you all you need to know - nothing to see here folks. It'll be a slushy drizzle fest for a bit, and that's about it. The last snow event a few weeks ago had warnings at least. Best pin our hopes on a late winter spectacular, because our time for winter 16/17 is just about up now.All this Winter has demonstrated to me is that (a) all these models try their best to forecast ahead but frankly they haven't a hope in hell of knowing what Mother Nature is going to do and (b) our interpretation of the models simply adds a further layer of guesswork to it all.
I love seeing the models and getting excited at reading the model interpretations (sometimes !) but really - and no disrespect intended - we really haven't got a clue what the weather is going to do beyond 3-4 days !!!
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This is all well and good but can somebody just tell me that the infamous Peterborough Snow Shield WILL be breached tomorrow ?
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14 minutes ago, ukpaul said:
Showing people the accurate picture is wrong? If people are misunderstanding the charts then pointing it out is stopping them having false hopes. I know it's human nature to want to believe the 'best' outcome but it isn't helpful if people want to read the charts properly in the long run.
One useful way is to go through a number of the shorter term models (WRF, Hirlam,. Arpege, NMM) and see what each is saying. They will also give a nice colour coded precipitation type chart, red for snow and blue for rain. All available on Meteociel.
I think it isn't the content of what you post but the tone of your comments ..... no need for it IMHO !!!
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Peterborough Snow Shield wins again !!!
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The more intense snow is still up over the Borders area and that may offer more hope as it comes down this evening in colder temperatures. The current snow is turning back to sleet at Nottingham and beyond so best hope is from later this evening. Temperatures above Nottingham currently around 1c whereas more like 4c/5c around London.
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Looking at the NW Radar, the band is definitely more east than was projected BUT it is clearly weakening as it comes down AND its also looking like sleet and even rain for anywhere home counties and below.
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Just been watching the animated movement of today's snow band and am I just being wishful here or is it sliding significantly further east than was initially projected ?
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28 minutes ago, mountain shadow said:I'm confused. Geordiesnow says this run is less amplified yet Ali1977 says we have a Greenland High? ??
Unfortunately the title "Model Discussion Thread" is a bit misleading to those of us who observe and try to learn. There are obviously various different models and various different ensembles out there such that those on here with a bias - for whatever reason - towards ramping mild or ramping cold will always find output from somewhere that appears to back his or her case.
Its frustrating but its entertaining and at times like this, it just underlines that no matter what your chosen model says, anything can happen !!!- 10
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Go Timbo ..... this is the banter forum not the model forum so good on you and please do lead us up that path !!!
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Santa very kindly brought me a Technoline WS9130-IT which I love to bits except for one real big annoyance. The max/min readings are rounded to the nearest degree and not very accurately either ..... if temperature moves up to 13.1C the max rounds up to 14C !!!
I need a station that records a max of 13.1C as 13.1C and not 13C or 14C ...... and I don't want to pay much as I'm now in the post-Christmas poverty period !
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Those showers streaming in off the Lincs coast are heading quite a long way inland ...... I was hoping to be in a good spot this evening and now I'm looking too far east !!!!!
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I have highlighted the area I believe has the greatest chance of seeing heavy snowfall.
Please no complaints if you are outside this area. I could well be wrong anyway.
You ARE wrong ..... Peterborough will average 10cm of snow ...... Paston will get 20cm !!!
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If we are here to look at the models then surely we have the right to question the met office's analysis of those models. It is brilliant to have a professional forecaster on here but I don't think that takes our rights away to post a contrary view. This is a forum after all, if you don't want a discussion maybe we should just post the met office forecast with a warning not to discuss as it is insulting to the pros on here.
^ ^ ^ ^ THIS ^ ^ ^ ^
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Model Output Discussion - Colder but how cold and for how long?
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......or "People are just sayin' how they are interpreting the models - problem is folk don't like it lol" ?