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Posts posted by Turnedoutniceagain
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Well JS if you fancy some proper winter weather then how about this for a forecast, this is north of Toronto where my friends live. Now thats what I call cold!
Low of -29c. Hells teeth !!! Am I to assume that GW only applies to the UK as an Income Tax raising tool ??
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i was thinking something more like this
Any chance of you slipping it south, say, 20-30miles should do me fine.
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Hi Carinthian.
Any chance of an update of ice coverage ??
How does it measure up compared to the last 5-6 yrs. Has a trend emerged or is it cyclical ??
pm if poss' as I may miss the post/reply.
Cheers Mate
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One guess. In theory you have a 50:50 chance of being correct.
I'll ramp it Enforcer. BBC South reckons 2-4cms early tomorrow !!!!!!!!
Turnedoutniceagain is moving to Level 4
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Rurrrrrp Rurrrrp Rurrrrp Rurrrrrp....
SATSIGs ALERT
Mild ramp projecting shin deep snow emanating from the Northern Isles
Ramp factor 2
I feel that a wee upgrade to Level 3 may be in order after that excellent 12z !!
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Not sure if I've given my lawn its last cut or its 1st cut
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WIBS. Cheers for the new "Desktop"
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People who are saying that this year is only 11th warmest and that this is a sign of a cooldown needs to remember something else first.
The last few months have had La nina present which while weak does seem to have been enough to slightly reduce global temperatures. Now we have neutral condtions the temps overall should rise a little. combine La Nina with the present solar min occuring and for this year to be still close to the top 10 is still pretty amazing and a strong sign that GW is happening.
La Nina/El Nino - whatever. We're all doomed anyway, with the Indian & Chinese economies growing at their current rates, another 6 billion people will have fridges & cars in 25 yrs time.
Never mind, must nip out & empty my recycling bin
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I'm thinking of taking the plunge and buying a Weather Station. Not looking to spend more than £500, what do the Team/Members recommend ??
Also Supplier links would be useful.
Cheers
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Excellent standard by all as always.
MCT shades it by a short-head from WIBS.
Thanks MCT, you're my new Desktop background !
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...1/narctic21.xml
Sailing to the North Pole. What does PM3 & Carinthian have to say about this ???
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PLEASE when referring to this or anyone elses' LRF for winter PLEASE quote their EXACT words not some version of your own.
This is NOT a comment on the 2 already posted but a plea for those that follow.
John
John, what they're really trying to say is that we're going to get 14 foot drifts, twice a week from 1/11/06 until next easter.
Seriously though, they needn't have bothered. This is a huge "fence-sit" as far as I can see. They've got about as much idea as Mystic Meg (aka TEITS) on what the winter brings.
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Gloom, gloom, gloom. Metcheck's 8-14 day forecast gives night-time temps of 12>16C right into early October. :o
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In general, as Ian Brown mentioned above, we need northern blocking to deliver anything significant/sustained to the British Isles. I think this applies to both northerly and easterly sources.
Northerlies:
I think for northerlies, for them to be sustainable or keep recurring, you need extensive blocking to the north-west, and by this I don't mean a flimsy little Greenland High, I mean a pronounced anticyclone like this:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120001227.gif
A flimsy little Greenland High with a northerly tracking jet usually gets pushed out of the way:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120031221.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120031222.gif
Easterlies:
For easterlies to deliver, ideally you need there to have been a recent northerly blast in the near-Continent, pumping cold air south. This suggests northern blocking- a high somewhere to the N or NE of Britain pumps cold air south on its eastern flank and then directs it westwards towards Britain.
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119910203.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119910207.gif
It's also possible to have a good easterly from the same kind of blocking that brings potent northerlies- a Greenland High which throws up a ridge towards Scandinavia:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119820106.gif
On the other hand, easterlies aren't much use when the blocking gets no further NW than southern Scandinavia:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120021209.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120060122.gif
Zonality:
From what I've seen, for snowy incursions from the W and NW you need either a Greenland High pumping cold air into the mid-Atlantic that then "returns" eastwards, or less commonly, air from a pronounced Alaskan/Canadian cold pool across the Atlantic over to Britain. In either case a generally southerly tracking jet but with lowest pressure to the N and NE is generally paramount:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119840115.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119950302.gif
If you don't have a cold enough source or long enough track over the Atlantic, you end up with only localised, marginal snow events:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119880208.gif
Just some pointers for those looking ahead to next winter.
Excellent info' TWS, I'll save this.
Here's hoping **sigh**
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Can someone refresh my memory please. Out of the plethora of LRFs that Members posted for winter 2005/6, who proved to be the closest ??? (No fisticuffs please Gents )
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http://www.meto.gov.uk/weather/seasonal/wi...06_7/index.html
A date for your diaries
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Lots about a cold Arctic pool here, but this does not do us much favour in September. Can it hang around for 3 months? Brickfielder is predicting an active-atlantic driven autumn, which tends to suggest warm air pumped northwards in time for January. Even if it is still anomalously low in January, how likely is it that this pool will get blasted in our direction as opposed to Siberia, Scandinavia, Eurasia or even the Mediterranean?
*sigh*
Don't get yourself all excited again, you know it'll end in tears
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Of all the winter forecasts issues last year I have to say that the NetWeather one was second only to the Met Office's. Too many forecasters allow 'hopecasting' to cloud there judgement but, thankfully, the team were sensible and realistic in there forecast. Hopefully this winters forecast will be the same.
AM
When's it due out ??? Oct/Nov' ??
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Time for "Autumn Discussion" to appear on the Forum Board ??
C'Mon Mods, another week or so & TEITS will be spotting Easterlies at T760+ :lol:
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As a family, we're lucky enough to have use of a friend's holiday cottage in the Kyle of Tongue (The flat bit on the North of Scotland - Caithness). I try & time a visit with the Sum' Solstice as the light is quite unbelievable.
With the aid of a couple of coats it's quite possible to sit outside at midnight & read the paper. In fact, the local golf club have a midnight trophy that involves tee-ing off @ 10pm & playing thru' the night. Suns up again at 2am-ish.
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It's Verglas for me & it's now my Desktop background - Thanks !!
12z model discussion - it's gonna get cold...
in Spring Weather Discussion
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Next Saturday - a reliable timeframe, are u sure ???