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Anyone up for a hunt for spring!!!! Seriously if this comes off I won't ever look at a model again, well, not a weather one anyway!

Never really heard of him, but based on what he is saying, I love the guy already

Great points as usual, and the thinking of your SSW prognosis is a valid point, low solar activity for one. It could also be a naturally occurring situation of several coming together all at once, on the other hand, the extra heat being generated around the globe, be it man made or naturally occurring climate change could also be a big factor. Like you say, 2 inside a year! Especially has they say several inside a decade is common, but if you were to achieve 3 inside a couple of years, wow!!

Thing is catacol how much faith can we put in these updates! How many times have they made a complete pigs ear of it? People still bring up the infamous bbq summer prediction, I also recall the heatwave of June 2017 which lasted 5days, at that stage a met office spokes person pointed out it would be a summer of long dry hot spells!! Wrong!! Didn't there predictions for 09/10 state a milder than average winter, some of the background signals you have been pointing out for so long could still deliver!! The big freeze in USA 2017 December, I remember a lot of the met guys were saying, only a matter of time before it returns, but it never did with that kind of intensity!! Proof that LRF is still very much an infancy, anything can and will still happen, keep the faith catacol love Reading your informative posts

Yeh, bizarre!! They state greater chance of much colder later in the period, then play it down a bit in the extended, blatantly obvious they ain't got a clue, on a positive note though, colder shots a plenty, so gonna be a continued risk of snow at times

Post of the day deep snow, you hear that netweather folk, cancel summer this year, the hunt for cold continues till June at the earliest, love it.

Yeh them to UW, just noticed how the system seems to be grinding to a halt around the areas I mentioned, little features bound to crop up in next 48 hrs, so hopefully we all end up with a bit of fun

Can see a few more chops and changes over the next 24 hrs regarding Thursdays snow, perhaps central, Eastern Wales in the line of 10-20cms, maybe nudging west and south west midlands, and thoughs of you in the southwest worrying a little bit, maybe another little troff moving into your area on Friday, one to watch for sure. And hopefully most of us can get on to some of the action

Nothing like a bit of glass half empty to bring the forum back down, I would actually say there are indeed 50 days of winter left, if you go by the book. And dcee, last year delivered very late! So to rule it out at this stage is, premature to say the least!!

Great to see everyone's enthusiasm going through the roof this morning on the back of some positive runs, especially the 6z runs, it's put a spring back in my step, as Mike Poole said last night, let's get the chase back on, so I will finish with one of my main models and say, I told ya so, the Indian model ain't tobe sniffed at, just look at that cold pool knocking on the doorstep!!!!

A bit of from China with love, its on, its on, the chase is back on,

With you all the way, and for a change I'm gonna say the met will be upgrading there forecast in the next couple of day, rather than the usual downgrading it!

Please let us no where you guys are getting ya crystal ball from, I want one, over analizing every run is a sure way to send you round the bend, it will end up where it ends up, I still fancy a more correction north than currently showing, I said earlier today, southern central Wales and into Central Western Midlands, its pretty much still game on

Just a thought regarding the failed easterly of late, and the lack of cold coming out of Europe, could it be to do with brexit perhaps!! I means let's face it Europe won't give us anything right now

Do I see height rises over scandy! And a march westwards of that Eastern cold! Anything is possible, perhaps even a link up of the azores high into Greenland

Just what is the point of making any kind of weather observations in this forum, when if the mett downgrade, folk start saying game over!!!!!!

These background signals were barely mentioned 20 or so years ago, Yeh perhaps they was less understood, but many a great cold snap back in the day wasnt always a result of ssw and other background signals, sometimes things just settle into place like the perfect roll of dice, and even takes many by surprise!! 87 springs to mind

And even the boys from Brazil seem to be singing from the same hym sheet, it ain't over till the fat lady sings, but she deffo clearing her throat I hear some of you say!!

Far to much importance placed on gfs in this forum, all models deserve a little respect, think the boys in space could be onto something here!!

That's a revised update, I'm starting to see that perhaps they don't really have a clue themselves, perhaps still favourable away from the NW, I wouldn't give up just yet though Don, tbh I don't think any meteorological services are covering themselves in much glory currently!

I bloody hope so to Jason, ive got an extraction booked at the dentist on Thursday, and I'm hoping the dentist gets snowed in.

Just wandering where Don was, pretty sure he stated last night met office would be downgrading, well they stand firm.

Thursday looking very interesting, with this system basically grinding to a halt, many parts of midlands especially south and west could see a right dumping!! Expect Amber warnings to be issued inside next 24hrs

Things looking really interesting for Thursday as the next system pushes ne, how far north and east is the question! But it looks at this stage some quite serious conditions could devolop away from the sw, central southern Wales, the Midlands, got a feeling this system ain't gonna be in any hurry to move, 10-20cm for favoured locations easily on the cards

Yeh Feb, I've noticed summer sun gets the updated version posted a good hour before I get access to it through my own Google search, so credit to him for that, think perhaps he as a little inside knowledge with the met boys myself!!