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6 hours ago, Azazel said:
True enough.
Its been frigid here, but utterly snowless, grey and boring. I can’t be dealing with the horrendous wind chill anymore with no snow whatsoever to show for it.
My hands will appreciate the milder weather.
Yes really significant windchill but no snow around. I had to wear 3 pairs of gloves for my daily run yesterday and that was still not enough!
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Snow 2/10. Monday and tuesday had light snow falling throughout the morning but was surprised that the snow started melting on tuesday despite a temperature of around 0C, as this snow stopped. Was very light anyway and only a dusting.
Slight dusting overnight into wednesday and Thursday too but the flakes were so tiny they rendered lamppost watching useless!
Often you get troughs moving through in these setups and was surprised none did this time.
Daytime temps were mostly just above freezing and it was often windy preventing a significant drop at night.
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6 minutes ago, damianslaw said:
A finish in the 6s would probably require second half to record a mean of 10 degrees.. not beyond possibilities I guess, but a very tall order.. the last week of the month could bring quite cold nights which will bring down the mean. A finish in the 5s a safer bet, and every possibility could be the 4s if we see a more marked cool down.
Yes. Now for some reason the data hasn't updated on the hadobs page, so I cant see the figures since the 9th. But basically 1st week of feb had a cet of 5c, this week, overall I'd guess 0c. 6c overall would mean an average of 9.5c for the next 2 weeks - so that would mean December 2015 style warmth is needed for the next 2 weeks continuously. Cant see this happening personally but wouldn't bet against 5c being reached.
This would still give a very slightly below average winter though.
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I have a question and not sure where to post it..
I was out for my daily run at 7am this morning and there was a dusting of fine powder snow.
However it got heavier for a time and the snow started melting despite no sun and temperatures around 0C.
What would have caused this melting of this powder snow? I thought it was the kind that just blows around in the wind and only disappears by sublimation..
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3 hours ago, TheOgre said:
It’s been snowing pretty much non stop for 2 days but there’s almost no snow cover strangely. We’ve already had 2 decent coverings on December 29 and January 24 so not bothered about this one.
Exactly the same here tbh. Continuous very light powder snow, even when not showing on the radar!
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Possibly some of the biggest flakes I've ever seen. Couple of inches has come down in about 1h in Basingstoke. The video doesn't do it justice but here it is at the start.
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There seems to be a lot of discussion at present about the sudden stratospheric warming, and how it increases the chance of the beast from the east happening. Whilst this is not guaranteed of course, far from it in fact, it has got me thinking the following:
1. What have been the best 'beasts' in your lifetime and
2. What actually constitutes a true beast?
For me, being born in 1980, the real beasts that I recall were in January 1987 and February 1991. They would get the top 1 and 2 positions respectively. January 1987 tops it due to the severe depth of cold on the 12th and 13th, despite similar snow depths here in both events
3rd place I would actually give to 2018 due to the depth of cold late in the season.
However, I cant recall any other events that I would class as a classic BFTE. The event in early feb 2009 was great here, but was it sustained and cold enough to warrant such a title?
I know there are no temperature or longevity thresholds officially but certainly for me they need to last more than a few days and have several sub zero Cet days, preferably peaking at -3 or below.
Other events that were similar were jan 2003, jan 1996 and dec 96 into jan 97. Maybe feb 1994 and dec 2009 too. They dont really qualify though I feel, which makes me think how rare they actually are.
Much of the cold weather in december 2010 came from the north, so again doesn't qualify in this context.
Interested to hear other peoples thoughts on historic beasts..
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Hi. Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask, I wasnt sure where else to go.
I know where to get CET and EWP data but can anyone advise where I can get national sunshine data from? Thanks in advance
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Moderate sleet here. Was expecting zero precipitation though, has come further east than forecast.
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2 hours ago, Azazel said:
Slight dusting in Andover and occasional very wet snow falling lightly alternating with rain.
This alone equals the winter of 2019 where I saw snow falling for 10 minutes in early 2020.
Same over here in basingstoke. Was coming down really heavy earlier but the slushy covering it left has since vanished. Intermittent light rain now.
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Even in the south I feel it was a hit and miss affair. We had 2 inches on the saturday morning, which i wasnt complaining about of course. However, places not too far away saw the band of snow ground to a halt and produce many more inches.
If I recall it was the west Midlands along with parts of the home counties that were the sweet spot.
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Unexpected thunder during a heavy shower at about 4am. In terms of thunder days, this means it is not now the joint least thundery year since 2010 here!
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First picture is snow falling on afternoon of 1.2.09. Following 3 are all on the morning of 2.2.09. Over 8ins, the most I can remember on the ground(exceeding jan 2010) in my adult life
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1 hour ago, MP-R said:
Today’s weather just epitomises what I hate about mild winters!
Yes, if its going to be mild and Atlantic driven, at least make it stormy, rather than relentless light rain/drizzle and just breezy. A mild winter is actually ok if it contains interesting weather.
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I'd say I've never experienced a proper hardcore white Christmas but certain years have been more festive than others.
1993 we had a dusting during the morning but it quickly went.
1995 it didnt snow down here but the cold on the day made it 'feel' like it should
1996 we had a snow shower early am but it melted during the day
2009 and 2010 had snow on the ground but none fell during the day
On the other end of the spectrum, as a kid I was fascinated, but also a bit scared of wind storms. 1990 I recall huge gusts of wind in the morning while opening presents, and then another pasting from the wind on boxing day pm.
I loved the wind storm 2 days before xmas 2013 though
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1 hour ago, Walsall Wood Snow said:
Although very cold with a covering of snow, we didn't get great depths here in late Nov/early Dec. There was actually a brief milder interlude early to mid month when the snow and ice thawed. Not sure if it was completely. 18th Dec wasn't as deep here as some places. A very snowy day but again snow depths weren't anything special. However the morning of the 22nd finally gave a proper dumping here with big fluffy flakes falling heavily, covering side roads over enough to lose the distinction between them and the pavement. The fact it happened only 3 days before Christmas and was all still there come the day itself made it feel extra special. It was a real Christmas card image of Christmas that year.
Yes, have to agree in some parts especially further south, the snowfalls were nothing exceptional. It was more the intensity of the cold. We had a decent fall overnight 1st/2nd though which wasnt forecast until within 24h of the actual event, and we got about 2in from the event on the 18th. It did stay on the ground until xmas though and this was down to the prolonged cold.
Snowfalls were much better in jan 2010, and feb 2019 here. Even march 2018 was deeper, twice in the month
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2nd week of December 1991. Foggy throughout the week and a gradual build up of rime from 9th to about the 15th.
A shorter event like this in 3rd week december 1994
December 2006 I also remember quite well.
Also unseasonably, at the end of march 2002 there was a very foggy spell I seem to recall
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I think something similar to 2017. Some spells of cold but unsure as to whether the frosty or snowy type yet. Not always long lived though and there will be a mild period lasting at least several days.
5.0C and 115mm
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2010 i would agree is a clear choice for many including myself, even down here in the south.
2009 was just as snowy as 2010 here, although of course it had a mild first half
1995 was good, but as others have said much better further north. Feb 96 was much snowier overall.
1999 was not bad here with snowfall being heavy on 18th.
2017 was interesting and varied.
As a fan of wind storms I will add 1989, 1990 and 2013. We didnt experience the xmas storms in 97 or 98 like people in the north did.
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As that heavy rain cleared this morning I noticed castellanus clouds drifting south to north behind it. Not seen them this late in the year before that I recall.
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21st December 2009. Was forecast to be 'rain with the possibility of sleet'. What happened? The worst gridlocked traffic the area has ever seen as 4 inches fell in about 3h.
1st February 2019. Overnight snow into the morning was expected and there was about 2 inches. However the 6 extra inches we got in the afternoon was not - this came from nowhere as the forecast for the afternoon was patchy rain and sleet.
And a couple from 1994 actually. 1st was on a Thursday early in January. Nothing expected but a good few inches of snow, the top layer of which was frozen, lay by the morning. Also a saturday morning in april there was an unexpected fall which melted quickly during the day though. Think this was 9th..
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Definitely more rain than forecast here and still going. Dont have instruments to verify it but reckon 40mph gusts too..
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7 hours ago, MP-R said:
Squall line going through here with lashing torrential rain and very gusty winds. More impressive than last weekend’s efforts.
Yes I thought today's squall line was better than last weekends too. It came through earlier than forecast and I was out running in it. Loved it, but never been so drowned before!
Lasted longer than a normal squall line too
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21 hours ago, SortingHat said:
1995-1996 was a good snow year for us both in the valleys and especially the mountains. The Feb 1996 floods were exceptional but I wasn't in Oregon then so never got to experience them. Little known fact though before those massive floods there was a brief but fashionable snow and ice storm that then quickly warmed up but not without causing issues of it's own! Hopefully this is an analog! Was it also an election year?
Would love another 95/96 winter yes please election year was 97
February 1994 Snowy
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I remember this period too and in the south it was more transitory in nature. This month sprang to mind actually, after the real battleground January and 1st week of February that we've just had.
The morning of 14th bought a decent snow shower from the east giving an inch or so but the deepest for us was about 2, maybe 3 inches tops, on the morning of the 15th. This quickly melted by the evening though.
There was nothing more until a light covering from a snow shower early morning 21st, and then about 2cm the next morning (and even this was localised down here). This was all gone by the 23rd and if I remember we had rain for the next few days while I remember hearing about snow for the midlands northwards.
Real battleground stuff, and not too dissimilar to what we've just had (though feb 94 was more easterly compared to jan 21s northerlies)..