Summer8906
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LetItSnow! Yes, I did think 1957 briefly but that, AFAIK, had a mild December.
Will think of one myself but will just go back up the thread to check what's been done already.
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LetItSnow! Hmmm.. had to think about it and considered a number of other years before coming to a decision.
1950? I know of the April snowy spell, the hot June and the cold December, and can't see anything which would contradict.
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Catbrainz Re the Alaska location: overall, it looks a bit like our climate in some ways, but much wetter, but with temps around 3C lower in both summer and winter.
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baddie Less here. I would restrict it to 6th, 7th, 8th, 23rd, 24th and 30th.
One of these was bright with hail showers (23rd) but arguably that counts as spring-like, at least for the first half of spring.
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AWD What will probably help in terms of rainfall totals is that the low is generally centred W, SW or S of us, so the winds will be less southwesterly than was expected a few days ago. This will likely lead to less rain but agree it doesn't look overly sunny.
Nonetheless, looking at the models it's never really settled right out to FI. There always seem to be lows quite close by, albeit not especially intense, and with winds from an easterly point at times. It looks like there will be further spells of quite heavy rain every few days, admittedly with calmer conditions in between. Another month which is both cloudier and wetter than normal is still my bet, even though it won't, I suspect, be dramatically wet. But still waiting for a month that is drier and sunnier than average...
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richie3846So do you mean higher or lower for London? Charts show a somewhat-cyclonic easterly which could mean either warm or cold this time of year.
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An odd breakdown here.
Yesterday saw Ac Cast at times and almost looked thundery, but as is typical for this area in these kinds of setup, no thunder appeared.
Indeed the fairly small amounts of cloud dissipated in the evening to leave clear conditions by sunset.
Then, oddly, sometime towards midnight, low cloud came in apparently from nowhere. There was no sign of it around 9pm.
This has remained throughout today and has recently started producing light or moderate rain. Not even interestingly convective, more like a rough day in October. Is it too early to use the A-word?
Not the first time this time of year, either. The Coronation Monday (May 8th) last year was distinctly Maytumnal.
Whatever, not especially welcome, even though since Friday I've been expecting a poor spell of weather. We've already had way too much of this kind of weather for the past 10.5 months.
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49 minutes ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:
It was an awful Winter and early-mid Spring for anyone who likes either warmth or cold unfortunately. Nothing but mild, dull, and wet for the vast majority of the time.
Indeed, basically a spring-less spring.
This week has been more like summer than spring (not complaining though) but aside from that, the only period we had consistently spring-like weather in the spring was around April 11th-21st.
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cheese Guess that's the effect of the Pennines filtering out a lot of the moisture - still surprised it would reach 20C on Wed though as it looks distinctly cyclonic. I'd have guessed temps would be around average for mid May.
WYorksWeather Locally, here. Definitely felt warmer here than the last two or three days.
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Probably the warmest day of the year so far, at a guess.
Already seeing the start of a breakdown to the west with some "frontal" mid-level cloud - one day earlier than I expected. Does this indicate tomorrow will be unexpectedly cloudy or will the influence of the high push back west for a time?
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B87 Distinctly mixed, though August would be a refreshing change from the norm. July sounds pleasant enough, too, as does September.
October looks just like the last few (mild and wet), November looks typically dire - but December looks a really refreshing change from the mostly dire Decembers of recent years.
I'd probably go with a good deal more than 45mm for May, though. May likely to be mild and wet, if only because the first 6 days were so wet and the 13th-15th, at least, seem likely to be very wet. A chance May could avoid being dull if high pressure appears beyond the 20th, I guess.
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LetItSnow! I wouldn't call 2020 a classic even down here, I'd rate it as poor-ish but down here, we did get one dry month in the form of July (cool and dull first half, warmer with average sunshine in the second).
Down here the real stinkers of recent years were 2021 and 2023. Of 21st century summers, only 2007 and 2012 were clearly worse than these two, though 2008 and 2011 would be about the same.
Then 2015, 2017 and 2020 all about the same, followed by 2019 very slightly better, then 2016, and finally 2018 and 2022.
All except 2018 and 2022, and perhaps 2016, I would rate as below-average, though.
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WYorksWeather Won't happen, but.. it has been a while since a distinctly hot end to May, of the May 2003 type, for example - or, to a lesser extent, May 1997.
So perhaps we are overdue a 29C maximum in May this year.
1 hour ago, baddie said:
You can put the first 12 days of May 2024 and the last 19 days of May 2023 together to get an absolute classicI'd swap out the first 6 days of May 2024 for the first 6 of May 1990, though - or perhaps the first 6 of May 1995. Those two years still stand out above all others as having particularly hot starts to May. Would hazard a guess that those two hold the top two spaces for hottest first week of May on record - but perhaps cooler nights mean they don't, in a similar way to how July 1990 is surprisingly far down the rankings despite being phenomenally sunny and warm-by-day in this area.
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Don Indeed, I'd call it a poor month. The first few days were unsettled, then the extreme humidwave suddenly arrived, lasted 6.5 days, then one day of dull thundery weather with intense humidity - then persistently very dull and very wet until almost the end of the month. The 14th, 15th (Fri/Sat) and 19th (Wed) were particularly ghastly for intense dull and gloom - and on the 19th was accompanied by persistent rain all day, making it very, very autumnal. The very end of the month was rather cool but settled following a thundery cold front on the 28th.
There were at least three very memorable lows/troughs after the 13th: the initial breakdown low on the 13th producing a protracted very dull spell, the active low on the 19th, and the thundery trough/cold front on the 28th (which was at least interesting - I enjoy a thundery spell followed by a sudden clearance to fresh and clear weather from the N or NW). In addition to these three memorable lows, there were several other Atlantic lows in between, keeping the rain going throughout this period. One of these was a named storm, though here, it was less active than the three mentioned above.
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danm The 36.4C one day after an active warm front producing significant rain is quite remarkable.
Rare indeed for it to go so hot immediately after a front - but it just underlines how exceptional that August 2020 heatwave was, unlike pretty much any other.
The current spell reminds me a little of a May version of that hot week in July 2021. Temps well above average but not record-breaking, and somewhat humid - with wet weather on the days immediately before and immediately after the fine spell.
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baddie That (average June and July for both rainfall and sunshine, sunny dry August) would be a good summer in my book, after the likely 11 consecutive wet months!
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What was unusual about August 2020 was that it was introduced immediately behind an active warm front, so the air was very, very warm from the outset - no gradual heating up from near-normal temps.
Very high DP and humidity the whole time. The change from moderate rain to clear blue skies on Aug 6th was plain bizarre.
As it happened, the afternoon of Aug 6th was the best period of the whole spell. Most days after that were rather hazy with some mid-level cloud in addition to the heat and the humidity. Mon 10th and Tues 11th were better.
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Metwatch There is an aurora due tonight? Or next few days?
For me I've only ever seen two: 13 March 1989 (which was absolutely phenomenal) and then a less strong one in November 1991 on a Sunday night (a quick google would suggest this was on November 10th).
Strangely, just weeks before the 1989 spectacular, I had a vivid dream about seeing the aurora.
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LetItSnow! One can but wish. To be fair, the end of May / start of June 2023 was just like that. Sunny with moderate temps for much of the UK, and somewhat changeable in the Mediterranean.
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Don I took @danm's answer to be to the "will it be warmer than 2023?" one.
Years with long weeks of heatwaves which are difficult to sleep through are distinctly rare here. Perhaps the odd one here and there, but they do not typify the UK summer. Aug 2020 was the last really oppressive period I experienced in the UK in the summer, though I was out of the country during the hottest parts of 2022.
Even in a Mediterranean summer it's not like that all the time - though July 2023 was rather challenging, it has to be said.
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LetItSnow! Or let's hope not, it would be a recipe for another unsettled summer here and another excessively-hot summer in the Mediterranean.
Perhaps an anticyclonic NE-ly summer would be best for everyone. Neither overly-hot nor overly cloudy or wet, and relatively low pressure in the Mediterranean moderating things there.
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Don Given most of summer 2023 was cool by day (apart from the first 25 days), it wouldn't take much for it to be warmer - at least in July and August.
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Azazel I am somewhat more "optimistic" about summer in the sense that I don't think it'll be notably wet, simply because that would be remarkable after 11 consecutive wet months.
I don't expect it to be especially great either, simply because it rarely is. I'd say one drier and sunnier month than average (June), one cloudy but somewhat dry in the south (July) and one changeable and somewhat wetter than normal (August).
Perhaps something combining elements of 2015, 2019 and 2020 - but not 2007, 2012, 2021 or 2023.
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WYorksWeather Here I'd say it's approaching 5/10 here, with, so far, 5 poor days and 4 good ones (Tues and Wed had rather humid starts, and cloudy on Wed, though improved as the day went on). So by Sunday the good days might outnumber the poor ones, briefly, before the poor days take the lead again next week.
Very few "average" days of a bit of sun, a bit of cloud and average temps yet though.
Just for fun: Guess the year
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Posted · Edited by Summer8906
OK here's one which I don't think has been done.
January was mostly mild and wet, and Atlantic dominated. There was some particularly mild weather in the first week. A short coolish dry spell intervened around the 10th and the weekend of the 24th was also coolish and dull. Pressure was higher towards the end of the month.
February was changeable, westerly, but not overly wet and often on the sunny side. It was also rather mild. March was mixed with some good warm sunny spells mixed with more changeable periods and was mild, and April was on the warm side as well as being dull and changeable but did feature a short cold spell with snow in some areas and warm, sunny weather at the end. May was warm but changeable with some notable thundery events.
June was somewhat dry but also fairly cloudy and featured notable thundery activity on the night of the 1st. Really warm weather was limited to a few days in the second half of the month though there were a number of pleasant, dry and bright days at other times. The sole warm spell was followed by a thundery breakdown followed by a rare immediate change to a bright and fresh NW-ly, before dull and unsettled SW-lies arrived the following week. July started thundery and then was predominantly dry, warm and sunny, hot at times (especially at the end), with brief cool spells. August saw a gradual breakdown in the opening days to very wet weather via a sequence of frontal systems though it was initially hot. The month continued mostly changeable or unsettled with only brief breaks, though turned warm and sunny at the end.
September started sunny and warm to hot but became dull and very wet in the second half. October had an unsettled start and end but lengthy fine spell mid-month. November was quite similar to October in some ways, while December was mild, wet and Atlantic-dominated but did feature brief cold spells, one producing lying snow in South Hampshire. It was stormy at times but could have been a good deal worse in that respect if certain low tracks were slightly different.