jethro

Andy, I'm with you on those thoughts. What a grim, wet Monday morning it is, oh how I wish work didn't beckon and I could go back to bed.

I'm a model numpty, utterly useless at reading and predicting anything from the models, but even I can see that they give clues for future trends. Admittedly they can't accurately predict the weather to the point of being able to say there will be 6 inches of snow in my back garden on the 3rd of December - I wouldn't expect them to be able to either. That said, their accuracy at that range is probably greater than your statement of fact above. Why and how can you be so certain that there's no chance of a cold shot in the future?

When you work outside all year round like I do, cold and snow loses it's appeal after a few weeks. I've got an enormous wedding to plan and plant a garden for, could really do without a late, cold Spring. Snow and cold limited to the end of Feb at the latest is what I'm praying for, although I know I'll be in the minority looking for that kind of weather.

I'm not liking the look of that, by the time March gets here I'm longing for a bit of warmth and sunshine.

Keith, please could you add a link for the source of that info - we need to stay the right side of the copyright laws.

If your posts have disappeared, it's because they were either bickering or off topic.

I think 3-5 inches is a fair assessment of what actually happened around here so for once, the Express isn't too far out.

Come on Laser, surely even you can't argue with global dimming. As any one who's ever lit a fire knows, it causes smoke and soot; go back to the times of before the clean air act and it was all too common for cities to be enveloped by sooty pollution. Industrial pollution in countries like China is immense, it all wafts up in the atmosphere creating a reflective veil. The introduction of the Clean Air Acts had an impact upon the atmosphere and temperatures on the ground. If China cleans it's act up, it is bound to have an impact and there's a real likelihood that it will impact temperatures, but it does have to be offset by the likely increase in albedo. Sooty pollution has been shown to have a large negative impact upon ice retention in the Arctic, some studies citing it as being likely to be at least equal in responsibility as higher temps for the melting ice pack. Over time, if large nations like China dramatically reduce their pollution, we should see a marked improvement in the reflective quality of the ice, which in turn may offset at least some of any resulting temperature increase.

Are there any?

Personally, I've never noticed any difference in plants. There's quite a lot of knowledge about Lunar planting, many folks swear by it but my experience shows there's either no visible impact, or I'm incredible stupid/short sighted not to notice.... I suppose if you're growing plants in conditions less than perfect then there may be additional benefits from outside influence but I'm the kind of gardener who sticks to plants which are suitable for the available conditions. I've never seen the sense in struggling to grow an acid lover in Alkaline soil or vice versa, there's so many plants to choose from, pick one which suits your garden - why make life difficult for yourself?

Just to make it absolutely clear to everyone, my interest in the magnetic field is simply that, an interest - in absolutely no way what so ever am I suggesting it is in any way responsible for the change in climate in recent decades, nor am I postulating that it is an alternative to AGW. I do however think it may have some bearing on the position of HP in the NH and perhaps an influence on the Jet Stream. My interest stems from going down a side road whilst researching electrical forces and the human body. I have an unnerving ability to stop any watch after wearing it for a few days, I also managed to kill our Grand Father clock after only winding it 3 times - it had worked and kept perfect time for over 300 years. I used to do a lot of diving, knowing how long you've been down is pretty crucial so after killing countless watches over the years, after speaking to a pretty knowledgeable watch chappy, I invested in a TAG watch - it was guaranteed to survive whatever bizarre thing was responsible for them stopping on me. Nearly 2k and two weeks later, it stopped. Returned it to TAG, they could find no reason but speculated it was something to do with magnetism and electrical current, hence my research.

Also, research Carbon 14. I did loads of reading/digging on this subject a few years ago, there did appear to be connections to climate but I can't remember the details.

Have a read of this Pete, it's new (only published a couple of weeks ago)... Here's the published paper, only abstract available, full paper behind pay wall: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012821X12003421 More details without payment can be found here: http://planetsave.com/2012/10/17/ice-age-magnetic-reversal-was-global-event-and-linked-with-super-volcano-and-rapid-climate-variability-says-new-research/ And here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121016084936.htm

The Frankenstorm in Climate Context by Andrew Revkin: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/the-frankenstorm-in-climate-context/

You'd have to take into account the magnetic field of Earth - in recent decades this has been declining faster than at any time in recorded history. Also magnetic North has been going for quite a rapid and changing walk about; it's never a static point, but again in recent decades, it has been moving faster than usual - last seen heading off into Russia.

Just looked at the radar, there's a big blob heading our way but I think it's too warm for anything but rain. Never mind, we had a lovely surprise today, snow when most had rain and it's only the 4th November.

Or better still, blizzarding....

It's drizzling here

It's melted a lot less than I expected, still got complete cover in the garden and the dripping from the eaves has stopped, it should be fun in the morning if it freezes. Are we due any more rain/snow overnight?

Been out with the dogs, headed up to Priddy as it's always guaranteed to get more snow than here, it's nigh on a 1000ft asl - surprised to see there was less than at home. I think we just got lucky as there's generally less snow out towards the highest tops of the Mendips. We went cross country, skirting across the A37 and A39, both of which were shut with back logs of traffic, a lorry had jack knifed on the A37 just outside Shepton Mallet but I've no idea why the A39 was shut, although we did see a Transit which had just been tipped back up the right side after flipping over. A fair few tree limbs down over the roads which probably accounts for the power cut here earlier. All in all, a lovely surprise on a Sunday morning and the heaviest snow I can remember on trees still with leaf cover.

Just over 6cms here and no electric when I got up. It's thawing like mad though so off out to play, will post pics later. What a lovely surprise!!!

So where in the globe has had a much larger sea level rise? Tuvalu doesn't count - it's sinking and would have the same problems even if global sea levels fell. And storm waters in New York are utterly irrelevant too, unless you can show that there would have been less water if sea levels were 1mm lower. I reckon you'll be ok with just the water wings for now.

And all those issues will presumably have been taken into account when measuring and deciding upon 1mm per year. I'm not being funny but given how difficult it must be to measure, surely 1mm must be within the margin of error?

Does anyone really worry about a sea level rise of 1mm per year? Seriously? We're hardly going to be caught out, if that's the rate of the rise we've got years to build defences for all those low lying, at risk areas. I'm not the world's best brickie/waller but even I could build a flood defence given those time constraints.

The latest NOAA image posted in this thread would suggest it will happen in the next couple of weeks or so....I think perhaps the Sun is going to fall from the sky too and the Cat in the Hat is going to emerge as the world leader, romping home in the Presidential Election. http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/74146-snow-and-ice-in-the-northern-hemisphere-201213/page__st__840