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Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
rubbish 06z op. Lets see what the control and GEFS do -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ECM could end up as a scandi high further down the line -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
And we forget the legendary winters of 78/9 and even 1963 only got going after Christmas -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Hopefully its just a case of putting up with a week of crud and then we can build another block in a favourable position, but probably no chance of a White Xmas now -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Just noticed the GEM control run was also good, so we can cling to this model for hope. but we are probably just jaffa cakesing in the wind with this one. -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The only straw we have as Nick mentioned is the modelling of the Arctic High. There may be time for another flip back, but we should prepare for the worst. At least we had one cold spell this winter -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Oh dear. Pants ECM to go with most of the other output, apart from GEM Pete Tong has arrived to bugger it all up again -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Pert 16 could deliver a white Christmas, but little point looking at page 2 of metiociel at this stage until the earlier pattern is resolved -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Pert 7 is perhaps something we can hope for if the current trend is now accepted, virtually keeps it cold for everyone, but regardless of a brief mild spell we are hopefully moving towards model consensus. We need a good ICON 12z followed by UKM and Mogreps shifting towards this solution, but of course, the whole suite could shift again like we saw the other day, so pete tong is never far away! Yes, as I was just saying, we might even get back to a 24 hour warm up only, but lets not be greedy! -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Shame we cant see the extended, but looks more like ECM than UKMO We need a good GFS op this time after the disappointment of the 00z, though the control and GEM were still good We are walking the tightrope thats for sure! -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Slight improvement this morning compared to the disaster of last nights ECM. As Nick sussex said, dont give up just yet, though it is looking green for xmas but perhaps some blocking afterwards is possible -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Control looks like big rain to snow event next Wednesday -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes, normally it always flips to mild, but perhaps the Xmas gods are listening to us! -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
interesting control so far, getting there, cold stays for the north -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Pert 6 and 19 is what we want to see, lets see if more like this in the evening spread -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
If you are positive, then I wont give up just yet. FIne margins as you mentioned. Tonights runs will be crucial, that old cliche really does apply to this situation! -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Everyone's on strike at the moment. I doubt we would get much movement towards UKMO, seems an impossible hope when pressure remains high over europe and nothing to force it -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
looks like a pants ECM tonight so far -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
another attempt at blocking just in time for xmas -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
An improvement on the 00z op, north keeps the cold, would take much for the phasing to be further south -
Model Output Discussion - the cold has arrived
Jan 87 replied to Community Team's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Seems like a classic Euro models vs North American again But lets see if the UKM and ECM flip into line this evening. Either way, a week long cold snap is the best we should expect in this country, Anything else is a bonus -
Model Output Discussion. 3/12/2022. How cold will it get?
Jan 87 replied to chionomaniac's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
You just know ECM is going to poop on the parade. Never seem to get a full set of good runs!