jemtom

A great effort chaps, however I fall into the category of hoping you'll be right but expecting you'll be wrong - as ever, time will tell, but I'll be the first to congratulate and concede defeat if you are subsequently proven correct. Good luck.

Oh dear!

Would be nice, but it's about as likely as Exeter winning the FA Cup this season. Yes, that unlikely...

Absolutely right, my sentiments exactly. Here's mine.... Max 10c Rain or drizzle at times. SW force 6 In other words, bog standard!

Not really, but I appreciate your attempts at clarification. Best we leave it here me thinks, otherwise the Mods will decend like vultures.... Here's hoping for a white one!

I've got to say Maidstone I really cannot see where you are trying to go with this? IMHO forecasts are never issued for fun (at least they shouldn't be) and you point regarding Mr Fish is totally lost on me. As for the "every senario covered by mid-December", now that is what you call a bit of fun. Finally you last sentance - what is all that about??

It's not about finding fault Blizzards, it's about holding and espousing a contrary opinion, which at the end of the day is a major purpose of a forum. In my opinion (clearly shared by some others) this kind of thing is both pointless and irrelevent, however I'm not claiming that makes me right and Stuart wrong, or visa versa. The doubters are not making a "fuss" as you suggest, but simply airing their views.

By the time we reach mid Dec Stuart should have covered absloutely every conceivable weather senario, so one of them is almost certain to prove correct. No offence or disrespect meant, but this kind of soothsaying is complete and utter twaddle IMO and belongs to the same genre as Piers Cobblers and his ilk!

Encouraging yes, but all pretty marginal stuff tho IMHO and a trend that could easily be slowed, perhaps significantly.

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to give us the benefit of your viewpoint on the subject then Ribster, rather than simply decrying others who are brave enough to nail their colours to the mast.

This IMHO is the crux of the whole matter. Open ocean absorbs heat at an alarming rate compared to ice cover, therefore the greater the surface area of water exposed the greater the warming - surely this is not rocket science? OK this year has only seen the 2nd lowest minimum ice extent since satallite analysis began, but that's very thin ice (no pun intended) to be pinning any hope of a pattern change on. Major sea level rises look as inevitable as night following day IF the current overall warming trend continues (and no one has yet given a viable reason why it won't). Indeed the significant local warming we've witnessed recently across much of Greenland for instance may make this a reality much sooner than many expected, even as recently as the turn on the century.

Some folk will fail to accept the facts GW, even when high tide brings water levels up to their bedroom window sills ... The reality is Arctic warming is happening very much as predicted, however the speed in which it is happening is breathtaking and totally unpredicted. My thoughts are we have not only reached the tipping point, we've actually tipped, with even greater acceleration likely from here on. However, sat here at only 24ft above MSL I sincerely hope I'm wrong!

I wasn't drawing a direct comparison OSW, just making the point that further unprecedented events (we'll have to wait and see what actually trarspires) in connection with the overall trend are likely during the coming Antarctic Summer.

Record overall low or not doesn't really matter, the trend continues and at local level the warming has been alarming. We have seen unprecedented events this Summer up in the Arctic and I expect we'll see similar things happening down south once again during the Antarctic Summer. Whilst it's encouraging to see some degree of slow down up north this season, I fear in the grand scheme of things it matters little, if at all.

Another very worrying Summer of melt in the Arctic. Increased amounts of open water have absorbed more and more warmth, with far less ice around to reflect this back into space. Have we reached the critical tipping point? Only time will tell, but if not I believe we are far closer to it than many thought we'd be even just 4 or 5 years ago.

LEGE 150500Z VRB01KT CAVOK 08/07 Q1015= For the 2nd night in a row minima have been well down into single digits at Gerona (Barcelona). Quite remarkable for a Spanish coastal station in mid Sept, especially considering the sea temps are still up around 26c. An overnight min here of 18c below the current sea temp of 15c would be -3c, something that we rarely see in mid Winter let alone late Summer.

Gerona (Barcelona) saw a min in single digits last night, indeed even at 10pm (prime time for eating Al Fresco) the temperature was 12C! LEGE 140500Z VRB01KT 7000 FEW030 SCT120 09/08 Q1015= I bet many a holidaymaker on the Costa Brava was wondering what the hell is going on here.

I think you'll find it will be considerably worse than anything we experienced in the UK last year Diane, but as you say until it's light and winds have abated enough to get the planes and choppers airborn we really won't know the full extent of the devastation.

QUOTE (Diane_W @ 12 Sep 2008, 09:37 PM) ...The eye is now fully developed. What on earth makes you say that? It is the most ragged sad excuse for an open eye I have seen on a cyclone! It is far from "fully developed" ! It's stuff like the above that I refer to GW. I'm not suggesting for one minute that Opp was trying to cause offence or ridicule anyone, but this type of reponse does put off some of the less confident/competent posters, which IMO is counter productive to a forum.

I think it's worth pointing out that not all folk on here have the same level of knowledge and understanding of Hurricanes, but that should not stop them from posting comments for the fear of ridicule. Perhaps some of the more knowledgable members could refrain from making snide remarks to others, even if accompanied by one of these and accept that none of us know it all.

Needed a sit down after checking the recordings from today. 1...Dry 2...Roughly 7hrs of sunshine (about 10% of the entire montly total to date) 3... 22.6c max

Slate grey again here and only 16.8c at 11am, if this is Summer then roll on Autumn!

I saw a small patch of blue sky (yes I did say blue sky!) here about an hour ago, but not surprisingly it quickly disappeared and it's now as dull as ditchwater once again. I don't keep official sunshine records, just some crude figs that I jot down on a daily basis. However even adding 15% for underestimating error, I'm still sat at less than 80hrs for August to date, (the reality could actually be mid to upper 60's) which is way, way beyond a joke.

Yet another depressingly dull Summers day, but on the plus side it does feel reasonably warm. Tho August to date has been hideously cool and wet, the stand out feature to date will have to be the lack of sunshine, in fact I've seen far more hours across 26 days in the very depths of Winter.

We've certainly enjoyed a Mediterranean climate here in Cornwall this Summer, but sadly one that is about 10ft below the surface.... :lol: