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i have to admit i think paul hudson will be a littlr dissapointed in himself really as yes he predicted the snow the other night (however not the amounts tht fell) but thereafter his forecast was for persistant heavy and at times prolonged snow showers for the rest of the week with today looking notoriously bad. However this hasnt quite panned out as today is quite the opposite like yesterday and tonight/tomorrow i really cant see many snow showers pushing in land as the frequently updated bbc met forecasts keep changing there graphics. The weekend doesnt look too promising in my opinion. I think any snow will be to the south and a slight thaw under cloud cover up here. However cant complain about the cold temps and current snow cover and i know a few to the east are recieving one or two heavy snow showrs

Why would there be a thaw with the 850's below -10 and from a dry source of air?

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Right, i have decided to do a chart, for tomorrow. I'll make it now.

If i get it wrong, sorry

Gimmie 20 mins guys.

Lewis

If you do, its all part of forecasting ! ... we all will appreciate the time taken and for sticking your neck on (when most of us wouldn't dare)

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I must admit it's a nice developing low, it's detail on the satellites is fantastic. It's actually deepening more than i thought.

It will sink southwards, and if its sinks SW then bingo

lewis

I hope it gets far enough inland to affect me but that seems very unlikely ... but hopefully it will be far enough north to give your area a good amount ... as you seem to have missed out on the bigger totals yesterday. Good luck !

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Theres our low

Actually a fair bit further North than the GFS showed and other models..

http://www.sat24.com/scan

Do you think it may stay on that more northerly course? .... Is there anything from stopping the system from pushing ppn inland as alot of forecasts seem to have the ppn hitting about 20-30 miles inland and just slipping southwards and exiting once more.

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The snow looks really quite amazing in this wind. blowing around quite alot ... looks like another shower could be on its waay too. Temp at -3.7.

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Tempertuare down to -4.1 ... Brrrr ... definitely the coldest night i've seen here in a good good while setting up.

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Is there meant to be any prolonged showers tomorrow or not? ... Forecasts suggested it previously yet seem to have backed away from it and suggest little in the way of ppn, despite the metoffice weather warnings still being out.

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A few flakes have started here now ... Temp is at 0.1 ... Dew point is -1.59 ... can anybody clarify what snowfall distribution there will be tomorrow? ... The BBC seemed quite bullish yesterday of there being prolonged and heavy showers for all of the regio but looking at the GFs, the low seems to enter alot further south. Who is liable to be correct?

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I think all of Yorkshire has a definite risk of seeing heavy snow, even though the Met warnings are for eastern areas.

The area highlighted in green is what we (and most already are) need to watch, the areas with a yellow circle is profe that if the precipitation is heavy enough then it will push inland. The showers are gaining intensity on the east coast, up until now the showers haven't really been heavy enough to push inland, but the showers over the north east are heavy enough so they are pushing inland.

Seems that way, with no high hills to really pass. Will the intensity of the clups of showers round the borders will shuttle south as the main low pressure sinks southwards?

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Surprisingly, is starting to turn moderate to heavy again here in S12..

7 inches on the grass......and 6 inches and counting on the top of the motor

Glad you did the measurements for our area rather than me ! lol ... where in S12 are you?

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No falling snow here atm but colder air seems to be filtering in, down to -0.3 after topping out at 0.0 about 30 minutes ago.

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Is the band going to edge further south back over sheffield or is it stalling further north? Temp at 0.0

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Quite abit of snow here, not seen anything like this in quite a while ... Powdery snow still coming down heavy, say a bout 7-8cm here already and the branches of my very privet are getting weighed down ... first time I've sene the snow sticking and accumulating on the top of the gate etc. ... would take pictures but my usb ports aren't working ... Temp is -0.6.

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Cheers for that link stumathers ... but what is causing the lower temps and dews there? ... is it evaporative cooling? ... as the 850's are a dergree or two lower here and the thicknesses also.

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How come places further south in the midlands are reporting heavy, settling snow whereas places further north, such as sheffield are reporting rain, even with much better elevation? Evaporative cooling?

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Hey all, great model output from the 12z's ... especially good for the eastern part of the region when the very vold (potentially bitter winds set in) ... However, I'm going to be away from the models for a few days as I'm in London and was wondering what snowfall totals I could expect upon getting home in suth Sheffield on the 2nd January? How much could I receive from the fronts moving in or am I too far north?

Thanks in advance.

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It certainly is! Just a case of watching the radar and the dew point I'm sure there will be some surprises, equally disappointments! I don't really have a right to complain seeing as i have quite a bit of snow and some have seen none down the in the Midlands

UKMO looks a little better with slightly colder 850hpa temps and the 528dam line further south. On the other hand there is slightly less precipitation

How do you think Sheffield at 190m asl will fair? We are south of the region so elss favoured, but slightly more favoured in the west. Will having a tiny bit of altiude help? Thanks.

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The shower doesn't look like it's going to make it over the pennines does it?

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Lovely scenes here, heavy snow and strong winds blowing the snow up the windows ... it's making up for the last few days that's for sure

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Heaviest snow of the cold snap here in Sheffield - absolute whiteout conditions, 50p size flakes, and settling to boot - totally unexpected to be honest!!

Yep, covering the roads and pavements easily here ! ... tempertures must be pretty low ... what part of S12 you at, im at Intake

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its a weird setup because they hook down from the NW then travel straight west to east! channeling it all towards sheffield and doncaster

I know, it is quite odd ... hopefully it wont loose much intensity on its way to you as surely the biggest hurdle is getting over the pennines and with so much instability about, should be fine once it's past.

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It looks like it could mate, maybe losing abit of its intensity, but the showers look to be travelling straight east to west, so should hit you roughly bang on.

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whiteout in sheffield

Yep nice big flakes! Makes a change to the last three days !

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Hmmmm, think the showers could make it across the pennines, but they do seem to be losing intensity quite quickly as they do so.

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My dusting is getting replenished by very fine grains of snow with perhaps some more heavy ppn to come ... may actually reach 0.5 cm by midnight ... quite a funny night really.