LomondSnowstorm

Met Office:Central, Tayside & Fife: Forecast Weather Tonight: Clouding over this evening and overnight with snow spreading across the south of the area late evening this then moving in across the rest of the area overnight. Light winds. Minimum temperature -8 °C. Monday: A few snow flurries around at first but these soon dying out to leave a mainly dry day with bright or sunny spells. Maximum temperature 3 °C. Updated: 0227 on Sun 8 Feb 2009 the met office are sending out conflicting messages

for you at least!! its touch and go for snow here but i'm still quite hopeful of some good snow later on in the night good news!!!!!!! the 06Z shows snow here from midnight onwards perhaps not heavy till morning but at least that's something! the 18Z last night was the poorest run i'd seen but the charts offer some hope for us in fife/lothians/dundee

to be quite honest, at this stage i would take the setup shown on the 00Z as it still shows snow here for a bit on monday morning I'm still hopeful, cause i think that the system is further north than expected, and the winds are beginning to move the front a bit further north the met office have let us down in the past (a lot of the time) and the 00Z do seem to show reasonable snow here from around midnight its snowing in donegal, which is quite far north its not over yet!

thanks for that i reckon the wait-and-see tactic will work best will be back on tomorrow at around 12 when things seem clearer

isn't the 18z run at 18:00? does that not make it 4 hours out of date? I might well be disappointed tomorrow but i'm not giving up hope yet anyway, i'm going to bed hopefully the outlook will improve by the morning

these charts are based on 4 hours old info things change quickly(as can be seen from this) at 6 the front looked like it would fragment if you look at the last few satellite images, you can see that although the middle bulk of cloud is weakened, it is still attached to the north and south ends of the front the gfs is odd as it assumes an easterly wind on sunday at 6 it seems to shift very suddenly to an easterly so i must assume that it is inaccurate!!! the current winds and the chart 21:00 winds are different so I really wouldn't take it as much of a guide

don't call it over yet, please, it might just hold

watch the wind maps http://www.xcweather.co.uk/ far more accurate i don't think it will fragment btw it looks like it is just about holding together

so true i really think that if it does split it leaves most of the precip heading for us the warnings have been truly appaling, and almost always inaccurate (except the ones issued WHEN it is actually snowing) the gfs assumes that it will split, and as shugee's brilliant explanation shows, that set-up still looks good for snow i don't even think it will split, at least not to much of a degree wait... the 18z is coming out snow is still approaching western scotland tonight, so it still should get here changing the subject slightly, what time is the main stuff meant to start in the east? it looks like 3-6pm oh cr*p, it looks like the snow misses us so far, but the gfs isn't normally wholly right and it peculiarly assumes an easterly wind for us so i suggest that it isn't taken too seriously

that map shows warnings for ice not snow i know what you mean but it looks as weak as on the previous charts

let's see what it does before we reach any hasty conclusions it might, but that may not mean a lack of snow the gfs still shows some hefty snow here even though it assumes the front will break up and if the front doesn't the event could be epic

this brought 7 inches in march 2006 so anything's possible

my earlier comment seems to be correct- as the front comes in the wind seems to turn more to the south so it seems that the front will hit further south initially before hitting here later if the front is fragmenting (which i don't think it is) it will affect the west rather than the centre specifically

yeah, i liked his 'ideally edinburgh would be a bit further north' bit

i did think that looked like that yeah but i don't think it will hope not :o on closer inspection i think it will stick together

hopefully monday will be an igloo day :o

yep, thanks shugee i hope that your forecast works out for us all, and the snow is heavy i must say that if temps are low enough atlantic snow tends to be fairly heavy and give big dumpings of snow eg. march 2006's snow came from the west it was the 12th, i think, so it came late slightly different set up but a similar idea

tv forecast seems to show the brunt of it hitting eastern scotland sunday/monday

i've not seen that happen to many atlantic fronts and anyway, surely it will come in from a southwestish direction as it approaches it's hard to tell from the cloud whether it's rain or snow, all we can do is look at the temps and dew points closer to the time i think its for ice tonight they haven't updated our snow advisories as far as i can see

the best may still be to come

dew point will probably not get above -2 all day tomorrow- good signs for it falling as snow the next thing to work out will be the intensity, length and depth of any snow the beeb seems to reckon the main front will hit the south but i think that it looks like the heaviest precip will be in central/southern scotland actually it looks like the beeb have changed the forecast and now think that we'll bear the brunt of the snow!!! still no warning though for us in fife

hope so!! and hope it gets here tomorrow night as heavy snow

we still have none, yet they are predicting 2 days of succesive 15cm falls in 'lundun on munday end tuessdiey' well, I have to alert the met office to the fact that it will almost certainly fall as RAIN in the south also they seem to think that the snow will be worse in the south on sunday/monday. again there is no evidence that this will be the case. Bring on the Scottish met. office!!!! Perhaps they'll at least remember that we exist and not just assume that we are an icy wasteland with lots of kilties running around chasing haggii(plural of haggis) .

it's terrible that shetland appears to be completely snowed under, aberdeen has got some pretty big snowfall, even we have had a few cms, and they are fawning over an icy pavement in bristol!! our pavements have been icy numerous times this winter and yet i've never seen the bbc reporter interviewing me on how slippy it is!!! amazing that monday's only warning is for possible sleet in 'lundun'.

yep we actually grit the roads in scotland, even when the met office doesn't have a warning for us