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Paul Sherman

By Paul Sherman
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Would You Fly ??  

46 members have voted

  1. 1. If UK Flight Operators Said They Were Defying The Agencies

    • Yes Without Hesitation
      9
    • No Way Hose - My Life Is More Important Than Profit Making Airlines
      37

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Paul Sherman Veteran

Paul Sherman

Posted
  • Location: Leigh On Sea - Essex & Tornado Alley
  • Location: Leigh On Sea - Essex & Tornado Alley
Posted

Put Simply With the Following Scenario

If Some Uk Flight Operators Were to go against NATS & Meto Advice and start Taking off and Landing

Would You Fly ??

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Harry Accomplished

Harry

Posted
  • Location: Bexley (home), C London (work)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms
  • Location: Bexley (home), C London (work)
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No way 'Hose', lol :nonono:

If I'm honest - yes I probably would, but with strong reservations and reluctance. But seeing is that isn't an option I've plumped for no.

dogs32 Aficionado

dogs32

Posted
  • Location: south London
  • Location: south London
Posted

YES 100%...

Got more chance being struck by lightning out in t he Plains :nonono:

lol...im out numbered :unknw: ...true fearless storm chaser

the names Pat Timmer

Guest

Guest

Posted
Posted

Put Simply With the Following Scenario

If Some Uk Flight Operators Were to go against NATS & Meto Advice and start Taking off and Landing

Would You Fly ??

Only if the reward was worth the risk. I would fly to go on the holiday of a lifetime (or for a very strong positive reason) but I wouldn't fly for any other reason.

So I voted no as there were no other options!

Paul Maestro

Paul

Posted
  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore
Posted

No chance!!And I'd go live in a bunker well away from any flight paths too :help:

pottyprof Enthusiast

pottyprof

Posted
  • Location: Swallownest, Sheffield 83m ASL
  • Location: Swallownest, Sheffield 83m ASL
Posted

After noting the "cloud" here earlier, I wouldn't risk it. Maybe I'd fly from Amsterdam to get above it...

jethro Accomplished

jethro

Posted
  • Location: Cheddar Valley, 20mtrs asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and lots of it or warm and sunny, no mediocre dross
  • Location: Cheddar Valley, 20mtrs asl
Posted

Not a hope. No amount of money lost, nor risk of lost holidays or missed business deals is worth chancing it, the stakes are a tad too high if it all goes horribly wrong.

M'Lady Apprentice

M'Lady

Posted
  • Location: Merseyside
  • Location: Merseyside
Posted

Nope. I'm a nervous airline passenger at the best of times, even without the added risks from volcanic ash clouds and what not.

snow raven Seasoned

snow raven

Posted
  • Location: Barnehurst nr Bexleyheath, Kent
  • Location: Barnehurst nr Bexleyheath, Kent
Posted

If I had faith in the plane operators and their judgement (ie they are saying its safe to fly because actually is, and not because they are greedy companies who would rather put profit before safety) then I would. But I don't - so I wouldnt!

Nothing is worth the risk...

Mondy Enthusiast

Mondy

Posted
  • Location: Larbert
  • Location: Larbert
Posted

I think I would. I enjoy flying. There has been no recorded incidents the last 48 hours from the likes of Air France, Lufthansa, KLM et al.

johnholmes Maestro

johnholmes

Posted
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
Posted

Put Simply With the Following Scenario

If Some Uk Flight Operators Were to go against NATS & Meto Advice and start Taking off and Landing

Would You Fly ??

No and never ever again with any airline that chose to ignore NATS advice although I suspect NATS/CAA would take action against any airline daft enough to flout their instructions.

joggs Accomplished

joggs

Posted
  • Location: bingley,west yorks. 100 asl
  • Location: bingley,west yorks. 100 asl
Posted

Put Simply With the Following Scenario

If Some Uk Flight Operators Were to go against NATS & Meto Advice and start Taking off and Landing

Would You Fly ??

Yeh but id need a good bot o red wrapped up in bubble wrap and encased in black box material x

MAF Experienced

MAF

Posted
  • Location: SE London
  • Location: SE London
Posted

gotta go some way sometime. so yes i would fly. :lol:

Love Snow Experienced

Love Snow

Posted
  • Location: Morley Leeds (West Yorkshire) Elevation: 165 m
  • Location: Morley Leeds (West Yorkshire) Elevation: 165 m
Posted

Its like a Ride!! LEt a few people go first if your not sure and then get on after nothing happens!

joggs Accomplished

joggs

Posted
  • Location: bingley,west yorks. 100 asl
  • Location: bingley,west yorks. 100 asl
Posted

Its like a Ride!! LEt a few people go first if your not sure and then get on after nothing happens!

you go first?:lol:

Mondy Enthusiast

Mondy

Posted
  • Location: Larbert
  • Location: Larbert
Posted

No and never ever again with any airline that chose to ignore NATS advice although I suspect NATS/CAA would take action against any airline daft enough to flout their instructions.

BA ??

Guest North Sea Snow Convection

Guest North Sea Snow Convection

Posted
Posted

No I wouldn't. It would take a life determining emergency to justify the risk

johnholmes Maestro

johnholmes

Posted
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
Posted

BA ??

BA did not flout any regulation, their aircraft were en-route to either Heathrow IF it was allowed or the standard first alternate. As UK airspace was closed, not Manchester as is the usual 1st alternate but Madrid. Once, and this applied to all the BA flights, the restriction was eased by NATS NOT the government, then they were totally correct in refiling for Heathrow, albeit with some holding due ATC having to get the normal approach paths opened.

I do wish people would make 2+2 =4 and not some hypothetical number. Like my earlier post said there MAY have been some pressure by airlines on both Euro Control and NATS but it was to be expected as proving flights showed that the previous technical reasons for banning all flights might be a touch overdone. But far better to be safe.

The PIT Maestro

The PIT

Posted
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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BA did not flout any regulation, their aircraft were en-route to either Heathrow IF it was allowed or the standard first alternate. As UK airspace was closed, not Manchester as is the usual 1st alternate but Madrid. Once, and this applied to all the BA flights, the restriction was eased by NATS NOT the government, then they were totally correct in refiling for Heathrow, albeit with some holding due ATC having to get the normal approach paths opened.

I do wish people would make 2+2 =4 and not some hypothetical number. Like my earlier post said there MAY have been some pressure by airlines on both Euro Control and NATS but it was to be expected as proving flights showed that the previous technical reasons for banning all flights might be a touch overdone. But far better to be safe.

Well they didn't flout it but decided to fly across anyway then circle around for a while before getting permission. So they should been heading to Madrid and not the UK. So I would presume then when they left that entered a flight path. Does the flight path to Madrid take them over the UK??? If it doesn't then why were they so far off course???

johnholmes Maestro

johnholmes

Posted
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
Posted

I've tried to answer in a constructive manner in several posts Pit-if that does not satisfy then I'm afraid I cannot help any more.

I have an open mind as I've posted and a pretty good understanding working knowledge of how civil airlines operate. Until shown proof I continue to wait for the NATS/CAA/EuroControl investigation. Until then any of us are just surmising and many with little knowledge. That is not meant to belittle anyone.

On a more constructive note and seeking information.

Has anyone got a link that show UK air corridors and those of Europe along with the north Atlantic routes please?

many thanks

The PIT Maestro

The PIT

Posted
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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I've tried to answer in a constructive manner in several posts Pit-if that does not satisfy then I'm afraid I cannot help any more.

I have an open mind as I've posted and a pretty good understanding working knowledge of how civil airlines operate. Until shown proof I continue to wait for the NATS/CAA/EuroControl investigation. Until then any of us are just surmising and many with little knowledge. That is not meant to belittle anyone.

On a more constructive note and seeking information.

Has anyone got a link that show UK air corridors and those of Europe along with the north Atlantic routes please?

many thanks

I'm trying to work out how the air flight is planned. I thought you would know as you seem more clued up on this me.

I presume you got tell the authorities where you going.

Forget this and someone else already has answered this earlier. Doh.

Now would they be allowed to fly if they said Heathrow when it was already closed???

johnholmes Maestro

johnholmes

Posted
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
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I'm trying to work out how the air flight is planned. I thought you would know as you seem more clued up on this me.

I presume you got tell the authorities where you going.

Forget this and someone else already has answered this earlier. Doh.

Now would they be allowed to fly if they said Heathrow when it was already closed???

see my post at 20

Mondy Enthusiast

Mondy

Posted
  • Location: Larbert
  • Location: Larbert
Posted

Mr Cynical hat on.

14 BA jets were longhaul. They were all arriving or near UK airspace within an hour or two of each other. Indeed, 5 or 6 of them were holding out west until pressure was put on the CAA/NATS by BA ??? Is this possible?

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