I now what you mean mountain shadow, its funny what how they loveto ramp up mild conditions, even with this ah hem mild blip it looks like the cold will soon return, remarkable days Good news Joe you got below your -10 prediction, happy days And the result from the Pomeroy Mountain jury is.... a freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzing -12.2 a long time since I seen that kind of temp