Hi to all, This is my very first post. I'm fairly obsessed by the weather like most people on here although i have no background or understanding of 'runs' 'parallel runs' '12z' and many more mystical terms. I rely more on my bog standard weather station for the weather in the coming hour or so and natural signs for prediction further in the future. I have been reading the boards for the last week and was wondering what if anything is so special about the current conditions? I can't remember in my life time a significant snowfall in Dec. I'm 33. If we do have one in '09 1) Is is that much out of the ordinary 2) Does it tell us much about the coming winter 3) Is there the slightest hint that we may be in for a '47 '63 event? Slightly of topic. Is there a forum or discussion for natural signs of predicting the weather and old sayings? ie March comes in like a Lion goes out like a Lamb / Owls hunting in daylight hours mean cold.harsh weather in future