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  1. Not totally lost it seems then Let's hope it's just a minor lull, but i like the idea of all that cold arriving maybe it will equalize things again Just when i think i've picked an opinion to stick with, I get pulled one way and then the other I suppose we should bear in mind that when we had 2007's low extent, people were instantly saying ice would not go above that level again (at the minimum) and that cold winters were a thing of the past As if to prove us all wrong 2008 had a really good extent recovery and we had the coldest winter temperatures in 100 years in 2010 P.s We still have less multi year ice than 2007 though at the moment, and we have just had a new record extent and area min this year
  2. It's got to be the Canadian/Alaska side that has slowed us down, now that the Siberian side is nearly totally closed up with ice? hope it's only a blip, as we'll be below 2007 again and lowest on record once more. Come on Beaufort and Baffin!! buck your ideas up.
  3. Hi jonboy Dipping below 2007 will still be lowest on record for the time of year though unfortunately, which is not good. A return to anything but normal, in both extent and depth is really bad. With higher ssts come the end of summer, because of open water, the ice will take longer to refreeze in those areas.Thinner ice obviously takes a lot less to melt out. We still have the open water on the canadian side of the arctic as well at the moment, which is making less and less time for it to thicken, when it finally does freeze over. It's seems no matter how low we go at the minimum it will always rebound extent wise?, at least for now?. It's the depth and thickness of the ice, that is the main problem and is in a seeming doom spiral, leading to the forecasts of a nearly ice free minimum in the future. Outlooks quite cheerful then
  4. Tiny rise of 27K?? on latest update over yesterdays report, we'll be back below 2007 at this rate. The latest value : 7,112,031 km2 (October 25, 2012)
  5. Ice seems to of either slowed down or just simply running along 2007/2011's line at the moment even ducking down below 2011 a little bit maybe? The latest value : 7,085,000 km2 (October 24, 2012) Also Yesterdays Amsr2 image of concentration and extent Canada side not moving much, and the siberian sides rapid closing up seems to of slowed a bit some gains around C.A? http://www.ijis.iarc...ice-monitor.cgi Also fascinating to see the darkness slowly enveloping the earth and Arctic, with the south pole getting more permanently light, and the arctic area either permanently dark or getting towards their twilight time of year http://www.timeandda...k/sunearth.html This is a real time snapshot of where the night and day is, at either pole as of 1 hour ago northern pole permamantly dark, hence the increase up there and just a small area of Antarctica still in darkness with the rest in permanant light If you enlarge the picture you'll get a good idea. As of 16:06 today 25th oct 2012.
  6. That would be my winter retreat if i won the lottery beautiful places in winter Cool link thanks 4wd When i clicked it, i thought it would be a static webcam pic, but it's live a car just drove past Here is a still from literally seconds ago
  7. Alaska and northwest Canada seem to be suffering a negative anom meanwhile snow-wise. Wonder how the ice trucking season will fair this year in yellow knife? Also a nice shot from svalbard today Still hanging on to some light by the looks of it From Zeppelin Station, Ny-Ã¥lesund.
  8. That anom is something quite amazing Looking at the Amsr2 map on the Ijis site, while the siberian side is closed/is closing up the Canada/Alaska half has receded slightly, no wonder?. P.s also not sure if it's just because it's still updating, but the siberian increase has slowed quite noticeably as well. Looking at the wind pattern for the whole arctic there seems to be northeasterly winds over C.A and that part of Canada today, and some southerly direction winds over the Siberian side? Arctic Sea-Ice Monitor Click the link and have a play with the overlays.
  9. Like it lol! Gap is really closing on the siberian side now, look at the difference in one day Alaskan side still not really changing though, not looking brilliant in that area still. I do however see a hint of ice on the alaska/canadian coasts. Arctic Sea-Ice Monitor 21st october 22nd of october Today To get the best view of the increase check the site out and flick between the two images
  10. Trips to norway and europe would be cheaper, just rent our own skidoo snowmobiles Lol!
  11. Wow getting quite a head of steam up now, 2008 had quite a sharp uprise after 2007's low extent as well maybe no coincidence?. I was thinking the same, especially as we don't get sst's that cold in the north sea ever, even when we got down to -20 in 2010, in the depths of winter never mind October I'm sticking to IJIS and nsidc for now .
  12. Sobering There are much more variables, that affect the arctic, then i ever imagined, before i read the posts on here.
  13. To put that into a daunting perspective, if the uk had that anom all autumn it would be like being in the mid 20's to low 30's c all autumn,is that right?
  14. I was just looking at that as well Lol! I think they have some gremlins in their data, it's showing 16%-21% ice concentration Sst's are ranging 11c in north and15c on south coast still here Here's a map showing the sst's from this week around the uk . http://www.bsh.de/en...tures/index.jsp Also arctic ssts from yesterday http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/ophi/
  15. Hope so Looking pretty chilly too when it comes Be nice to get some frosty mornings to go out in when i'm working outdoors Can clearly see the ice, that is holding back the area reading on that map,some lesser pieces of ice between the slightly thicker pieces There is a line of not so thick ice running from near the Alaska end to north of svalbard as well? P.s funny that it's showing 16%-21% ice around the uk though
  16. Quite unbelievable really And i would bet it's defying the predictions of a lot of people on here. I know that the area and depth, will be "most" important at the end of this coming winter, as far as melt out is concerned,so i'm not blinkering myself, or being in denial about all this, i'm merely speculating But, is it out of the question, that we could have a better minimum next year? Even if it's only slighter better than 2007 say? it would be a start at least.
  17. Be good to see the russian side seal up at last With anomalies so high near canada, is europe going to get some of the cold Canada would normally have again this year, because of cold air displacement? like December 2010?. It makes me wonder how much longer it will be, before places like barrow get their sea ice arrive? Could be the fly in the ointment next melt season then. Gives with one hand and takes with the other.
  18. Nice to see the ice and snow starting to fill in around siberia But you can see the drastic effect the warmer ssts around Alaska and Canada have had. Also a nice shot from svalbard today looking very seasonal Not quite total darkness up there yet Also just for a cold fix Summit in greenland is currently -46c with a night time temp of -54c for tuesday night there!! www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/GL/Summit.html
  19. We are very "close" to the 90's average "September" MIN extent though, so some people are just nit picking, if it carries on with strong rises , we shall breach the average 90's "min" as well very soon, all be it a whole month behind of course We are above the 2000's Minimum though Technically we should be above all min extents by now in a "normal" year? Sad reflection on how much ice has been lost. Arctic Sea-Ice Monitor Extent and concentration map from yesterday's date Nice to see the ice starting to enclose in on siberia. can't help thinking sst's are stopping this area being totally filled by now as well Also, an obvious lack of ice due to the summers high sst's around Alaska and Canada at the mo. Also you can blatantly see the areas of thinner ice that need to thicken up a bit as it's still looking more like a jigsaw puzzle at the moment. Couldn't post todays map, as it is still updating but looks like a little bit more filling going on with regards to the russian side on todays.
  20. Good to be above 2011 now. But can't believe a month later than the average min date we are still aiming to catch the lowest extents of some years
  21. It is clearly above the average "September" Minimum for the 00's not the 90's Without my morning cup of tea i thought it i saw it above the 90's line too.
  22. Pretty much bang on with 2011 now Can we go higher? or will it settle down and follow 2011's line? I notice 2007 and 2011's line was pretty much the same from now on for a while. The latest IJIS value : 6,219,375 km2 (October 19, 2012)
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