smith25

Yes i know that is what i was pointing out to joy of cornwall.

Thats strange as the charts i look at show them expanding and becoming more intense 13th oct https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCODA/U..._sstanomaly.gif 12th oct https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCODA/A..._sstanomaly.gif

Do the scales on these charts change during year .i.e Is a -3 anolomy in august still a -3 anolomy in lets say january when the sea should be colder anyway???

There abit of a change north of us...Its grown slightly larger in size but has also become less potent. The warm anomoly around the pole has shrunk slightly and the atlantic has more colder pools of water. Still along way to go yet so plenty of changes yet to come. https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCODA/U..._sstanomaly.gif Very different from this time last year though. https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCODA/A..._sstanomaly.gif

Ahhh so your just picking on the smaller areas how about thinking about the overall temperatures with IS overall cooler than this time last year. and the area north of the UK is also colder than this time last year.

I think your colour blind and need to look at those charts again as the SST's are certainly cooler over the atlantic than this time last year. Im not a cold ramper im just making sure that peoples warm ramping ALSO doesn't colour there opinion when reading the charts.

Not to be rude wib but could you change your record it seems to be stuck. yes the ve+ anomoly is in the atlantic but its not masively possitive. Also the positive anolomy further north and around the artic areas has steadly shrunk and over the past few weeks and has become near average which is a big difference to this time last year. Also don't forget that SST's can change very quickly and theres plenty of time for the temps to go either way. todays: https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCODA/U..._sstanomaly.gif last year: https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/OTIS/AR..._sstanomaly.gif