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Indeed, the world. Yesterday the BBC started stringing together stories about cold weather in mainland Europe, N. America and Asia. If it hadn't snowed in (or near) London, they would have ignored what was happening anywhere else!

I'll need to go and have a look! Wonder if the docks have any ice in them yet?

Definitely in January 1982. There might have been some in December 1995 - I saw a lot of ice on the Tay at Perth then - but I'm not sure. You're not saying you saw some today are you?!

Though there's a band of showers out to the east stretching almost to Aberdeen that looks like it's getting quite organised to me. Might be something for a few of us in the east later?

Right - I don't think the Faroes ever get very cold for long. A bit like Shetland with less sun (in winter). It doesn't look like the most active cold front ever though. I'm looking more to the showers later in the week than to this.

Good grief! The 528 dam line's almost in North Africa! Also, what other signs do you think we should start looking for if we want to work out (guess?) what's to happen after the weekend? Last time I looked at the models, there was definitely some erosion of the cold going on. (Still a long way out of course.)

In noticed that today too - and no sound of water dripping or running into drains. Nice ...

So, in that case, although from the Countryfile forecast you would have got the idea that it was going to stay cold, wasn't Mr Corbett possibly underplaying it a tad? What about night-time temperatures for example? All he said was it wouldn't get much above freezing by day.

So, if I've got this right, the next few days has a cold front crossing the country from the north tomorrow night bringing heavy snow to some. After that low pressure forms in the southern North Sea and sits there for a few days. This pulls in a freezing cold easterly or north-easterly with snow showers. The 850 temperatures are close to -10 much of the time.

Nothing to worry about along the coasts (assuming you want snow rather than rain) tomorrow night? The snow risk charts suggest not anyway!

Sawel, my 50 cm was measured in one of the highest parts of the city but I would say estimating 30 cm for the city centre on that occasion (1980) is reasonable. I was just saying, as By-tor's figures also show, that along the east coast it's quite possible to get around a foot of snow from these showers if they last more than a day or two. In February 1987, I think there was also around 30 cm, although I had to go back to uni in Edinburgh at the weekend when it all started and before the snow had reached its maximum depth. (That was some journey back!) 1991 was not all that severe here - its fame is due to how bad it was down south - although there was snow, of course. I don't think it ever got deeper than 15-20 cm. Back to today and its all very quiet here - literally - now that my neighbour has given up his fruitless attempt to get his car up our street!

Well today has had a very different feel to it here and the first day of this spell that the traffic has had real problems within the city. There's not much happening at the moment but it looks like there is plenty of potential in the next few days. For me, to be a real east-coast event it would have to produce around 30 cm of snow. I saw that several times in the late 70s/early 80s including early February 1980, when I clearly remember measuring the snow at 50 cm. No-one ever seems to mention that time however as I think it only affected Dundee, Angus and north-east Fife, although it was generally cold across the rest of the country. It needs a few days of these showers to get up to those sort of depths though!

I hate to mention it but that little warmish sector that's supposed to pass over Scotland tomorrow night is still there in the 12Z GFS. No mention of anything slighly warmer in the TV forecasts though. In fact, they are talking about it getting colder again, presumably because of the air that comes in behind that low.

We've just had a shower of - well, something. I think it was mostly hail! Not very heavy though.

I can see another big shower coming. Just give it a few minutes ...

Yes, I've just walked through the city centre and the new snow is lying easily everywhere there is no salt. So far then, no problems even at sea level! The showers are getting heavier and, like Mondy says, the sky is starting to take on that 'east-coast-snow-event' look. We'll see what tomorrow brings but even if it goes a few degrees above during the day, you usually gain more than you lose in these situations!

I agree. I think it's probably the most bizarre piece of forecasting I've ever seen on TV. It's probably partly down to the national forecaster not bothering to add enough detail to her comments for Scotland though.

Looks like we are also now in the less cold air. Temperatures have suddenly risen to just around freezing.

Certainly hasn't made it up here yet and I think this morning is actually the coldest yet. Leuchars was reading -9.1 at one point - you don't often see that! Also, the met office seem to have backtracked on today being a 'mild' day here. On Sunday they were forecasting a maximum of 5, which had changed to -1 by yesterday evening. Maybe we'll get away with just a brief thaw tomorrow!

Yes, according to the fax charts, troughs running down form the north could bring something for just about everyone. Could be very interesting in the west in particular, with a small low just off the coast!

Started off as a mixture of just about everything, then heavy snow and now - I think - it's raining. If it would just turn dry we'd be OK for keeping our snow cover.

Thanks Hiya, and others. Looks like it was eight in a row then! Getting a bit foggy here now. That's something new!

Yes, yesterday was a CSWD here too - but I'm not sure if it ended a run of six or eight days. (Anyone know if it snowed at all in Dundee on Friday 18th?) Whichever it is, it's an impressive run of days with snow falling. Having lying snow here for a week or so isn't that unusual - though I know Monifieth and other places near the river might be different. If it does get to two weeks, I'll be impressed! Anyway, looks like the rain/snow failed to make it up here at all and it's beautiful and crisp today. Perfect for a Boxing Day walk!

Looks like 1978! Or have I got the wrong year?

They've been repeating this 'worst in 20 years' line about the road conditions in Scotland ad nauseam on the BBC. It's certainly nowhere near as bad here as in 1993 (Braer Storm), 1995 (Christmas), 2001 (February) ... How would others rank this current spell for conditions in their area in general? I am enjoying it though - just don't think it's particularly severe (yet).