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So am I gathering that the storms will be a mostly southern event? Typical!!!
Your neck of the woods has done exceptionally well over the past 2-3 years - don't forget that amazing supercell storm last year! That'd do me for the next 50 years!
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I don't mind humidity as long as it doesn't go on too long. The thing is, a lot of people argue that the heat here is more uncomfortable than it is in say the Med, due to the humidity being higher, when in fact many places around the coast of the Mediterranean are actually very humid throughout the summer. Nice for example has very high relative humidity right through the summer.
I've made this point before that the Med coast is quite humid during the summer - inland areas not so much. I've also made the point that temperatures above 30C in the UK are rarely accompanied by high levels of humidity - 30-31C with humidity around 30-35% for some southern places today. Has the UK ever had temperatures in the 30s with dews reaching 20C, for exmaple? It's not uncommon to get 20C dew points with 26 - 28C temperatures occasionally, but not above 30C.
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Nothing i have seen from the models tonight shows the breakdown fizzling out. Hot spell looks like going out with a bang. Talk of another two weeks of hot, fantastic, sunny weather isn't what the models show. Yet the masses persist.
Another 2 weeks? Who mentioned that? As far as I can see, the models show this spell of hot weather persisting for another week-10 days, then show the possibility of a breakdown after the 27th, but this is in fantasy island and the run degrades into low-res rubbish. It's too far away to make any call - your calls for a breakdown are premature.
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Today was what I call a 'hot' days as we exceeded 28c (so that's two 'hot' days this year).
Really want to get a 30c before this spell is over - perhaps Monday or Tuesday?
Suddenly become quite breezy and I can hear the city council house bell striking - sign of an easterly and often the sign of impending low cloud....
We've had an easterly most of the day and we still reached 27C - likewise tomorrow might be out hottest day of the year in Yorkshire, with easterly winds.
One thing I've noticed though is that temperatures just bomb after around 18:00, even if it's sunny. At the start of this spell, it could still be 27/28C at 18:00, but at 18:00, Church Fenton was 25C, after it was 27C at 17:00.
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A 'major downgrade' in relation to the fairly sky-high charts we saw yesterday. I still see widespread 29-30C right until the end of the high-res run. Still see no concrete evidence for a breakdown - still way at the end of the run in FI.
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Look at Heathrow.... 38 degrees is on there!!!! Incredible!!
Even 33 degrees is shown for Leeds.
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In fact, temperatures today reached 27C in Church Fenton and 28C in Leeds, with an ESE/SE wind - so wind direction isn't everything.
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People in northern Europe would laugh at people in London calling -5C cold, or 3 inches of slush 'a lot of snow'. It's all relative - it only matters what you're used to. If people in southern Europe want to laugh at us simply because we don't roast every summer, then let them. We'll laugh at them when the Iberian peninsula is a desert.
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I think some are getting carried away a tad with the output but what I am seeing though is that upper air temps may increase during the weekend but with quite a keen flow off the North Sea, temps are actually forecast to drop during the weekend, only exception to this rule seems to be Northern Ireland and NW Scotland where temps will rise significantly from values being recorded this week.
With such a keen flow off the North Sea, I still have a feeling for some locations(don't mean those people who live near the east coast) low cloud could become quite stubborn. Its one to watch I feel.
Mostly over the weekend though, as opposed to early next week. We'll see - I think GFS is showing the strongest easterly influence, and even so, an easterly/south easterly at this time of the year can prove to be the hottest wind direction for the UK. As things stand, we've been warmer than the near continent up until recently, coupled with cool sea temperatures. That can change quite easily.
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They ought to make their minds up - one minute it's hell, the next it's glorious etc. Why don't they just tell it how it is, without their own unwelcome opinions and embellishments which only serve to wind me up even more than the damn heat and sun is already doing a wonderful job of?
To be fair, the weather presenters I've been watching have been unbiased, mentioning that it isn't for everyone and that the weather is much more comfortable in Scotland and Northern Ireland, and that if you dislike heat, low cloud will be welcomed.
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ECM in particular continues to hint at possible significant heat next week, but that is still a long way off and plenty of things need to fall perfectly into place for us to tap the really hot air. Frankly I can't see why so many people crave temps in excess of 30c, in fact 25c is perfectly acceptable to me, especially when working. 35 even 40c is easily bareable in places where dewpoints are low, but once we start pumping up air capeable of supporting mid 30's across UK it inevitably becomes much more humid and consequently far more unpleasant imo... but to each his own I guess. Looking at the current outputs I suggest some may need to be careful what they wish for.
As far as I remember, July 2006 was characterised by low dew points in relation to the actual temperatures. It may be rather muggy at temperatures between 26-28C in the UK, but once temperatures exceed 30C, it's unusual for it be very humid, especially if the source is dry continental, as it usually is when such temperatures are breached.
As for be careful what you wish for - the weather will do what it wants regardless of what we want, and even if it may be unpleasant, it cannot be denied that it would be very unusual and interesting to record such a hot month, like December 2010, which no doubt some people became sick of eventually, and I would be excited to see 40C be breached in the UK, just once in my lifetime, and 40C is very rarely accompanied by high humidity away from Arabian Peninsula coastlines and northern India.
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We exceeded 30C in both of those months, so that is the only thing missing - notably high maximum temperatures. We even reached 31C in June 2011, but of course that was 2-day affair.
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I think the current Siberian heatwave looks even more impressive(and quite scary) too me, 15C uppers, 30+ temps right on the coast of the Arctic Circle!! And this could last for quite a few days by the looks of it! Too think only 20 years ago, the Kara Sea would be covered in thick sea ice and now the coastline could experience its hottest ever temperatures.
For our shores, it does look like the heat will continue but I am still wary about getting carried away about everywhere will be warm/hot and sunny, we have seen in some places even quite a bit away from the East Coast that low cloud can stick around but I think for the most part, its looking good for heat lovers.
This is my concern too - even though the position of the high is more favourable for eastern areas, easterly winds are still projected to arrive by Friday or so. GFS still shows high temperatures for the the vast majority, but then they can be misleading and aren't exactly the most accurate tool, and low cloud, or any cloud, is difficult to forecast, and can appear without warning, as we say last Monday for eastern England.
Still time for things to change - but a westerly flow seems to benefit more people than an easterly flow, unless it is coming from the SE, picking up hot continental air, even most western areas appear to stay dry and clear during westerly winds, as we saw today - any low cloud and fog was far less extensive and stubborn than what we in the east usually get off the North Sea.
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Amazing how no matter how good a warm spell is, you'll still get people playing it down! 25C is certainly cooler than 30C but I think a 'different world' is a slight exaggeration, 25C still feels very warm!
There is a world of difference between 25C and 30C, though! To be fair, it's perfectly pleasant, and I am enjoying it, but I am slightly disappointed that it isn't a bit higher, and also disappointed by the unforecast cloud.
As I said, 30C every day would be annoying and I'd hate it, but it's interesting and always a benchmark. As a keen weather enthusiasts, I enjoy very high and low temperatures (only by UK standards though!), not all the time, but occasionally, to spice things up. Tomorrow and Wednesday may be higher. It's like in winter, when you have lots of snow, maximums below freezing, but lows of only -3C, you feel a bit cheated - it could be colder.
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So you never made that 28-30c last week? Hehe.Meanwhile hot here. Haze is less than earlier. Nearly 29c now.
We reached 29.1C, Bramham near Leeds reached 29.2C. Would be interesting to get more hot days though.
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Not sure if you have a microclimate there but Friday and Saturday certainly produced significant temperatures and i'm not that far from you.
Yes, but they haven't continued, and it isn't as warm as I was expecting, certainly not as warm as GFS was projecting. Still, tomorrow and Wednesday may produce 29C, and I suppose my expectations may be a little too high!
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While London basks in 30 degree heat, we up here have barely cracked 25C.
It's like a different world - not even remotely heatwave-like. Pleasant, but unremarkable. I was actually expecting higher temperatures today.
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Highlighting just how unreliable models are past a certain range.. GFS goes from 31C in Cheshire, 29C widespread on Saturday, to a max of 26C in W areas, and 21 - 24C elsewhere.
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Scorcher - please bear in mind that not all of us layer up excessively during the winter. Regardless of conditions, I find a hoody and jeans suffices between November and February, therefore if I enter a room that is too warm, I can just remove the hoody without having to faff about with a large coat, a jumper, hats, gloves and everything else. Some of us certainly tolerate the cold far better than others, meaning that winter is not a time of inconvenience or trouble, but just another season. In fact, I find that most of the year, my attire consists of a hoody and jeans, so I rarely have to change, except during hot spells such as this, where shorts are a must.
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Everyone I know also supports this view, this forum is not representative of the UK population IMO
Of course not - but then, most people in the real world do not crave extremes of anything - and that includes excessively hot temperatures. Why do you think climates such as San Diego and Las Palmas have been voted the best climates in the world in the past? Due to their consistently pleasant temperatures, as opposed to stifling heat. Both are susceptible to extreme heat, but it's the exception to the rule. San Diego in particular has average highs not too dissimilar to London in the summer (but with much warmer nights), so that leads me to believe that most people want pleasant, usable weather and not the silly heat you crave. You are definitely an oddity like the rest of us, and to be frank, I don't care what the general public want or like, because they are not weather enthusiasts - I want interesting weather, and when looking at climates, I judge them on how interesting they are, and how variable their climate is, and not by how often I am able to go outside and tend to the garden or lounge by the pool. That's just me, but as they say, variety is the spice of life, and I crave change, and get bored quickly of repetitive things.
I'll take 26C with low humidity, but also some storms and general heavy rain. No brown grass please - nothing appealing about that. Just enough rain to keep the grass green, but not so much that everywhere becomes muddy. Thunderstorms are best for this.
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BBC going for MAX 34*C in London next Monday and Tuesday...
No they're not - it's just the maximum possible temperature on that day. More like 30-31C.
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Today was great, temps of 25C, dews generally of 3 - 5C and humidity below 30%, and a lovely breeze - perfect for doing outside activities. I hope humidity is this low all the time next week.
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Unless you're a dole wallah or a member of the idle rich, what's good about it? In fact scrub that - what's good about it for anyone? I hope come winter that 30C is preceded by a minus sign! Bah,grr etc...
Only reason I want such temperatures is from a weather enthusiasts POV. I like extremes, but I would hate 30C every day.
Hot and settled spell discussion and temperature reports July 2013
in Spring Weather Discussion
Posted · Edited by cheese
Could be the warmest day for us tomorrow (all with a SE wind btw).. but I don't think 30C will be breached. Depends on the cloud cover though - could have reached 30C last Friday, but cloud cover ruined it. If we can get clear skies until midday or so, then that would be good.