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That's what SHE said! or... Seems like he's getting excited then. hehe! Just thought I'd chime in - there's actually LESS snow here in Snowdonia now, than there was before the MetO's yellow warning of snowfall! Brilliant.

Nope. From what I can tell/see, we've had nothing in Snowdonia. Hell, it's barely rained at all here!

didn't he mean 600 miles north of the "non-event for almost the whole of the UK"?

Even that NAE chart posted looks marginal, with barely any snow inland.

I'm just a novice at this, but I suspect you'd be better off waiting until Wednesday night to see what the weather is going to be like. There's just too many unknowns at the moment. It may turn out to be the storm of the decade, or it may turn out to be nothing.

Geenrland high? oooh yeah!

Could be worse. The weather could be like rural busses. You wait for ages and ages, then... nothing comes. So you walk, cycle, or drive instead. As for the disagreement between GFS and the MetO - I'm leaning more towards the MetO personally. Not because I want to see their forecast come true, but because the GFS simple doesn't seem to have been very accurate over the last few days.

I love exciting weather, so huge storms, massive snowfalls, and deluges of rain get me interested. Extreme weather can kill people, but that's not WHY I enjoy being in, witnessing, and hearing about huge storms. To accuse me of being ignorant to the threat of life is, well, a bit ignorant. And I'm no stranger to death. We lost my brother in a storm over a particular Christmas period.

you mean along the lines of... SNOW = GOOD NO SNOW = BAD? In that case, the Caernarfon area of North Wales is Currently BAD even though further south it's GOOD. Forecasts suggest it should be GOOD up here too, but it's not. Might be getting GOODer later though!

I'm a native near-Caernarfonite too. I'm not from Caernarfon itself, but half my family is. Not sure what's going on here, been looking at the sattelite images, and reading people's reports, and it appears as though we're in some strange alternate universe here. Brisk winds, no rain at all now, and mostly blue skies. Just doesn't seem to fit in with the general overview of things at all! Peculiar. But fascinating.

I'm sorry but I just don't agree with you, despite being an avid supporter of the Welsh language. Unless the MetO have some facility actually within Wales, I don't see any reason for them to have to support Welsh. If that were the case, then surely s4c's website, as well as the Welsh assembly's communications, would all have to cater for Gaelic, English, and Scots as well? Anyway, on a weather related note, I just can't see this storm pulling in that cold upper air strongly enough to produce sensible amounts of snow this far south. Up in the mountains, it may be feasible. Snowdon does sometimes grow a layer of the white stuff at the most unexpected times, but snow down to 100m? I really don't see it happening today or tomorrow. I know I'm a novice at reading the weather, but I'd bet my giant mug of tea on it! :lol:

Sure thing, sorry. I was just saying that I doubt that the MetO are just covering their backsides. It's become apparent in the last fortnight that their models definitely show something that those (at least freely) availably on Netweather do not. Whether they're more accurate remains to be seen, of course.

cuddio eu tinnau? na, dwi'm yn meddwl. Ma'n amlwg fod ganddyn nhw ganlyniadau hollol wahanol i be sydd ar gael ar Netweather yn dod allan o'i modelau.

Near as dammit, on the Carnarfon coast. Wind has now died down completely, and so has the rain for now. For a period of roughly 30 minutes we had easily the heaviest rain I've ever seen in my life. I was driving home from work and had to use the foglamps, and crawl along in 1st gear. Visibility was almost nil due to the sheer volume of water falling from the sky, and the roads had become rivers. All calm now though. EDIT: Oooh, and just as I finish typing, the wind returns, but nothing too bad. feels like approximately 20-25mph winds. Not necessarily. They've carefully worded it to avoid tabloid-esque "death storm on it's way, prepare for Armageddon" interpretations... "Rapidly strengthening winds and heavy rain are likely to reach the west later on Thursday and extend quickly eastwards overnight into Friday bringing another potentially stormy period. The public is advised to monitor warnings for this period, noting that the warning may be upgraded." There really is nothing there that would leave them with egg on their faces should the storm be a damp squib. Telling folk to be cautious is not the same as telling them the end is nigh :winky:

It is rather perplexing that the MetO have a weather warning for snow covering Wales. As dubious as I am, I can;t help but think... what do they know that we don't?

Very well put. The MetO aren't enthusiasts, they're professionals. And they're paid to give accurate forecasts which is impossible at this point in time. The reason so much of the country is covered with a yellow warning is that it's better to have people prepared for the worst, and have nothing happen, than it is to have nobody prepared and the weather brings devastation.

That's fine, no confusion caused, it's just that I've heard the term "cambrian" applied to almost anywhere in Wales, I just wanted to know which "cambrian" area you were on about! Snow on those hills may be quite likely. They generally seem to have a drier, colder atmopshere than in Snowdonia (Which, incidentally, I have also heard referred to as part of the Cambrians), which are generally fantastic rain-makers.

ooooh. Big winds, incoming. Starting to get some big gusts now. I don't have an anemometer, but I can see some pretty big trees starting to bend outside and the howling is getting louder, even through mostly soundproof walls.

I doubt it. The wording on the warning also covers Scotland, so I strongly suspect that it's the Scots that are going to see snow down to that level.

Yes, but what does soupsurfer mean by it? It's a very ambiguous term, it seems, so I'm interested in where he was referring to.

Heavy rain just kicking in here. It's slowly but steadily building in intensity. Winds are nothing to write home about, yet.

What exactly do you mean by "cambrian mountains"? I've never seen a concrete definition, and it appears to cover everything all the way from North to South Wales.

I would love snow so much. But on the other hand, I've just seen the mountain webcams of where I'll be spending a week in January (WHOOOOA!), and realistically, I probably can wait, and keep some semblance of sanity. Maybe. I'd really love to get some boarding done in Snowdonia first though.

It's Monday/Tuesday's storm that's been downgraded, in terms of caution.

Are you threatening me with a supersoaker? hehe! I wasn't intending to call your forecast into question, more, highlighting the difference in weather just a few miles up the coast (Wales is only small, after all). Sorry if I came across as being dismissive - that wasn't my intention, but in hindsight, I see how my lack of eloquent-ness-ism could make it appear that way. Hmm. After being let down by the yellow warning of snow last week, I won't hold my breath (but I will, however, wax my snowboard - just in case!). Seeing as the wording covers Scotland and Ireland as well, I'm not convinced that the "Heavy showers will fall as snow over hills above about 100 m, and at times to low levels too" necessarily means Wales. Here's hoping that I'll be a disappointed pessimist. But surely that makes me an optimist. Oh, whatever, I just hope it does snow, and snow lots!