GoonerGregg77

Great evidence of nowcasting from the Met Office, and something to bare in mind of what can easily happen when not originally forecast.

With winds veering NE'ly, and the streamer moving in that kind of direction NNE, it would appear, no.

Cor the BBC & the Met have caused a stir haven't they! And it looks like it's working. The masses are taking heed of the graphics on forecasts, the very mention of rain on the met outlook, and now there planning there usual new working week, and there shopping trips all be it for food or non essentials as normal because all the who har was about nothing again. Nothing to worry about really approach is being taken, just what the government wants. From a snow enthusiast, this doesn't deter me from what is about to happen this weekend and early next week. Snow, snow, and more snow. Sleet in lighter precipitation, yes maybe. But rain, give it a rest!

The Met Office, BBC, along with the ECM I am, the conspiracy theorist......

Look, the BBC are a large core of information that can easily influence a mass of people. I'd say in line with Goverment backing, let's not warn people just yet, let's give them false security and keep everyone in the supermarkets, spending money on things as normal before the snow actually falls. That's the BBC for you. So vague until snow actually falls from the sky.

Nice little clump of precipitation coming up through Southampton and looking like hitting the SE at some point overnight. Clear skies, temps coming down slowly, Hmmm, a nice little wintry taster would be nice! http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

All we can divulge from so far from the latest models thus far is, initially this weekend, Rain, predominately sleet and transitional snow will effect the southern part of England & Wales, that we know of. Then from Sunday into Monday, we will be unstable cold to v.cold air with snow more favourable in the east, although the SW & Wales are at threat of some general snow from lows spinning in off the Atlantic. As we go through next week, it's like the winds will veer more NE'ly, and favour Eastern areas of the UK and Scotland maybe, and drier and brighter further west, with occasional sleet and snow showers moving east to west through the midlands and SW England. Less cold conditions (As per GFS & not gospel, but must not be ignore, after all 4 or so runs make it a real possibility) will try to make it's way in from the west, while the East keeps hold of the much colder conditions with ongoing periods of snow in shower form. Showers are likely to be as ever, hit and miss, and most likely slowish moving. After Wednesday, it's likely the cold will hold on again out to the East, more snow showers for this area, and the West is likely to be again in a Less cold environment, and again brighter. Overall, EA, SE Britain, along with your usual Eastern most parts of England & Scotland are where you'll see better winter conditions for enthusiasts. Inner most closest areas next to these areas, ie; Lake District south, into North Midlands & south of that can expect sleet and snow showers. It's more organised bands of sleet and snow that is the main problem for forecasting in my opinion. Sorry moderaters if there are no charts to back, delete if need be.

Well said. Totally agree. Do not follow them. You might as well just see what turns up this weekend and if it snows then the BBC will show snow symbols that people want to see. It's nowcast from them.

I think major investment is needed on weather technology, seriously! This isn't a moan by the way, because I genuinely believe the GFS will start to gradually make some sense of the amount of cold coming very soon and thus fall in too line with the UKMO & ECM for that matter, although it would seem on 1 run that it's falling in line with the backtracked GFS on it's 4 consecutive runs now. When I was merely 14 years of age, in Feb 1991, I remember hearing the first signs of a impending cold spell, it was on countryfile on a sunday on BBC 1, before the Thursday the next week the famous easterly hit our shores, and I can tell you now, I remember that forecast very well. It was very accurate, and you don't get much of a accurate countryfile forecast these days do you! It picked up the threat, and it depicted nearly exact to what actually materialized. No sitting on the fence, no hesitancy. Why today there can be this much confusion a few days before a winter event astounds me. Todays technology? Sorry, I have serious doubts. My view is that there is a chance there will be a *Less cold* movement from the west effecting the SW and and Ireland, along with maybe Wales and the NW of England, but I do believe that will be an overcooked guess at the minute. Just look at the Jet Stream, look at the heights in Scandinavia, and more importantly the wind direction as a result. This type of scenario can be shifted slightly, and we may end up with a more Northerly flow with a NNE twinge to it as well, but a full SW wind rushing in and pushing the cold back towards the East? Not for me, and not a biased view neither. I just think the SW may be unlucky at times in this cold spell.

The Met, the BBC, desktop widgets, any apps etc will not give you an accurate forecast at all, you won't get what your after trolling through that nonsense. Stick to what unfolds in here I'd say, and check the weather on these sites the day before, or on the day for that matter, even then there mostly wrong.

That's a load of codswallop! Do you realize how cold the arctic gets? -60c -100c wind chill and it still snows. Never to cold to snow. Someone correct me!

SAY WE GOT EASTERLEE........SAY WE GOT EASTERLEE!!!

ECM is looking good! GFS on it's own at the mo

I hope people can understand me on this one!? When we are presented with a possible shortwave spoiler spinning out of Iceland, I'm sure with the Atlantic being blocked and the jet screaming south of the UK, this can't be a gospel to go by?? Would it be the case to assume that the GFS as with all models are possibly now looking at different scenarios after all agreeing on one major real possibility being the cold option and snow etc before actually reverting to a agreed scenario as depicted so beautifully yesterday? A biased view of course. Mumbo jumbo talk I know! I'm sure things will turn around once we get closer to an outcome this weekend. If we can't predict what is going to be probable this weekend, how can we think that next week the Atlantic will scream in SW's! All so very messy, but exciting as ever!

Now that's a proper forecast!

BOYAKA SHAR!!!

Baaaby.... it's..... MILLLLDDDD..... Oouutside!

Feels so, so mild out there!

Get all these lows from the Atlantic out of the way, and let's wait and see if the Atlantic slows as that jet stream dives south, and then the models will see clearly again.

At least this *New* Cold trend is showing 120rs+, a lot earlier than the last fiasco. I'm wishing my life away again! Round 2 of the Rollercoaster, hold tight riders! Here we go!!!!

Can't say I'm sad to see the cold weather go now. Nothing worse than cold and dry Zzzzz. Not a cold all rounder as you'll know from that comment. But we have Zzzzzonality in abundance coming our way, and it's a rather bleak outlook in terms of snow chances this year. I am still reeling from last week's MASSIVE let down, I don't think I'll ever get over the charts the ECM threw at us too then end up with what we got in the end. NOTHING! Shame the models can't get this next system wrong eh. Not with mild and rain, never!

Just had a moderate shower of.....Rain and Sleet for about 2 mins, 10 mins ago. The annoying thing was, I could see snow blowing about from way up in the clouds before turning wet as it hit the ground.

Heavy snow flurries lol

The MOD thread are trying there up most at straw clutching this evening. It's like 'Stand back' a few more shocks of electricity to try and get this cold spells heartbeat going again before the line on the monitor goes dead! That countryfile weather forecast was very depressing for me. It was painful! I still am reeling at that ECM runs the other day. Very deflated like many. I keep looking at them and wondering, what if! I still hold out for a glimmer of hope, but it's the faintest of hopes. Let's hope we can get another bite of the cherry somewhere soon down December's line eh.

Things are changing AGAIN! This roller coaster of a ride has given me blood shock eyes! I think we can expect some possibly hefty upgrades, as I did think the models across the board have underestimated this block to the NE of Europe. I think the reason why there was such a backtrack in the last few days in the models was because as we head towards a more reliable time frame, and as the model runs run, more possiblities occur as it comes up (The Atlantic attempt) against the giant high pressure in Scandinavia, and it's struggling (Delaying) it's inroads towards the UK (The Atlantic), thus bringing a longer spell of us in the cold to very cold air.