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2 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:
Yes I think the main difference north Vs south is I've never actually recorded a completely snowless winter here. Even the mildest like 2013-14, 2018-19 etc had at least a dusting at some point. Whereby I'd say all of the south below Birmingham have had no snow at all in some winters, maybe not even any falling snow. Stating the obvious but clearly the further north you are the closer you are to the Arctic and it's associated air so less likely to miss out on snow.
Yep, I think you are right. I think 2011 had no snow falling, I think every other year there has been a flake or 2 at least.
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2 hours ago, Dark Horse said:
Couldn't live there tbh. Only interesting weather they get more of is thunderstorms and they can wait years to see a snowflake never mind a covering. They can keep their stifling heat too. Onto the local weather and it's a cold day for sure with temps barely above zero and some snow cover remains here, very icy underfoot though nearly slipped earlier.
Its interesting now that you mention it. We down South have this thought that the North always has the snow whereby we get scraps but is it actually true? A few of my events experienced aside from 1980's (numerous), 1987, 1991:
2008/9? = 10cm's lasted a whole week
Dec 2009 = 21cm lasted past Christmas
Jan 2010 = 34cm lasted for 2 weeks
Dec 2010 = 10cm lasted over a week, then again another 8cm that also lasted a week
2012? = 12cm lasted a week
2013 - 2017 several one day events of 5cm ish
2018 = 9cm's lasted 4/5 days
2020 = 1cm lasted a week
2021 = 1 cm lasted a week
2023 = 8cm's lasted 2 days
How does this compare? I expect its less, but is it really much less?
And yes, those hot days are something else without aircon!
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17 hours ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:
Not bad here, but far from great, especially when SK4 got buried
34.5 cm's for me in Reading
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37 minutes ago, Snow Shoes said:
Absolutely. I rarely comment on this particular forum but feel inclined to say i get the distinct impression from some people posting on here that they view 2 (potentially) +40c days as an advantage rather than disadvantage of Climate change. Be careful what you wish for
Dont wish to be argumentative, but this is not the thread for this. this thread is about peoples hobbies and something they are interested in. There is enough doom and gloom to be found elsewhere and I am pretty sure absolutely nobody is ignorant of the reasons why. After the last few years we need to allow people to enjoy themselves I think.
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2 very different views above
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Just looking at purchasing one of these (HP2552) and have a few questions if anyone knows the answer:
1. Do any of these record sunshine hours?
2. With the WH57 lightning detector - is it the case that it only alarms at a DP of 70 +. If so, does that happen very often here in the uk? Is it worth getting one?
3. I see that you can upload data to WU, WOW etc. Does this cost and does it keep historic or is something else reqd?
4. If I were to get an additional Temp sensor could that be sited in a Stephenson screen and still read from the console and if so can that be reported to above websites? The reason I ask is that I always seem to notice the temp react to the sun even with the shields. Is this a noticeable issue with these models?
Thanks for any help, very much appreciated
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2 minutes ago, Ali1977 said:
Snow back into Midlands Xmas day , now let’s see what happens long term with these short term changes.
Has the midlands moved to Yorkshire?
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55 minutes ago, tinybill said:
i know its a long way off and its fantasy land could go back in the frezzer
That’s rain
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2 hours ago, Ian Docwra said:
I really do wonder what the models are aware of - at the start of this spell they seemed to be unaware of saturated, warm ground over most of the UK, and North Sea SSTs being much higher than normal. Models, of course, are immensely complex, but these two factors are pretty basic for predicting snow formation and accumulation.
Absolutely, I would hope that sst's, sun strength and ground temp would be right up there with the parameters being used.
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8 minutes ago, NewEra21 said:
As @Hotspur62 just alluded to, GFS also now showing signs of what the Met Office long range forecasts have been hinting at.
Interesting. It would have to be something quite exceptional to get ice days and snow that time of year (what I term as the holy grail) bt if it can be extreme cold can it at least be snowy please weather gods
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15 minutes ago, Ian Docwra said:
Much less high cloud today is allowing stronger sunshine.
Thanks. I assume the models werent aware of this then.
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Its warmer than expected today. Was expecting another ice day but temp is already 1
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1 hour ago, Penicuikblizzard said:
Epic stuff here on the outskirts of Edinburgh 30cm level snow,,,,definitely the beast showed its hand up here
And Edinburgh looks beautiful anyway, cant imagine what its like with the snow
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Amazing stuff up in Scotland. Enjoy.
I wonder why these conditions have lead to a record cold night. The uppers are nothing special and its not been particularly prolonged. My guess would be the extreme snowfall coupled with the uppers.
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2/10 for snow. Very little only a few dustings
6/10 for Temps. 1 true ice day where temp stayed at -1 all day. I call it true as it wasnt due to a frosty start or cloud cover just that it was that cold if you know what I mean. As mentioned before felt it was overhyped.
Defo not a Beast from the East. -12 uppers dont deliver now either
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On 09/02/2021 at 11:36, birdman said:
Last Thursday it became clear that this cold spell was definitely going to be an event for predominantly the Eastern side of the county. So although a little disappointing for us lot further west it has not been entirely unexpected. From an IMBY perspective, its not been THAT cold and of course very little snow. Still had a dusting which is more than some! Personally I've not written this Easterly off yet as there is still hope and interest for me. But I bet the people who have been right in the thick of it have a very different opinion and for them I'm sure it's been very memorable! So it's all very subjective.
Half the problem was the ramping type posts in the mod thread which may have falsely set expectations too high for some people. In any case, this cold spell could still surprises for some and February is not over by a long way!
The problem for me was Simon King from BBC R5 that on Friday morning said that we were in for "significant disruptive snowfall in the south and east". I then checked the met office forecast and indeed each day from Sunday to Thursday was an ice day with snow all day Sunday. Thats when my expectations were set. I am sensible enough not to listen to the mad fred peeps as they are prone to excitment. Simple fact is it didnt do what the met men said it was going to do.
Reality was very little snow, the odd dusting. Light snow falling for just shy of a decade and 1 ice day so far.
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3 minutes ago, rug said:
Really poor cold spell for here, frustrating what has actually been delivered in comparison to the potential that was on offer. Think it will be remembered as a cold but underwhelming UK spell of weather.
Also, wasnt even that cold. -11 uppers lead to 2c maxes yesterday. What sort of 850's do we need to get these days. Although I know Monday was an ice day we were expecting 4/5. Reality so far - 1
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1 hour ago, Surrey said:
Doesn't help that each day that passes now the sun gets stronger and stronger.. You only have to stand init to notice the difference from December..
Gaining near 3 minutes of daylight now as well
Yes, having just been out for a walk its surprising how few areas there are that dont get touched by the sun this time of year. Its not melting much in the shade, but then there isnt much shade!
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5 minutes ago, Ian Docwra said:
Yes, and the fact that the water has been relatively warm recently after what has been a mild winter. We have two large ponds and they are only slushilly(!)-covered. With still, clear nights they should freeze easily. A calm, clear night has a steep temperature gradient from the ground/water up, whereas the wind both keeps the water moving and mixes up the air so that the water surface-level will be exposed to, say, -2C whereas it might be -8C in still air with the steeper gradient.
Very interesting. I was just out for a walk in the woods and the ground is still muddy and not frozen. Most puddles completely unfrozen in the woods (Sandy soil). Yesterday whilst out and about all puddles on the concrete and roads were frozen solid (cant check today as staying at home). I was wondering if the sandy soil has something to do with it as sand conducts heat and loses heat very quickly. Any thoughts anyyone?
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7 minutes ago, Mindfuzz said:
They seem to be going just North of us to Wokingham, Sandhurst etc
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10 minutes ago, sukayuonsensnow said:
Depends how much of the greens and yellows make it across London, it will be at least more persistent than yesterday so a decent covering. Will come down to locality, some areas more north or south maybe only getting a dusting or light covering.
I am in Farnborough in NE Hants. It does look like they are heading our way but who knows. If they are not heavy enough and with the temp warmer than expected we may get very little settling. Just a 1cm dusting or so here now and thats starting to go from roads and pavements. Whereabouts are you?
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12 minutes ago, abovefreezing said:
Can anyone explain why, with temperatures below freezing, there is absolutely zero settle on my paving slabs all the way up the garden? Generally, not impressive apart from on the grass, despite days of falling snizzle.
Its probably due to the ground temps being above freezing but someone with more knowledge might be able to help
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2 minutes ago, Mal_UK said:
Finally have proper settled snow rather than just a dusting!
Thats great to hear. Send it down to N east Hants please.
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Just now, paget said:
Here’s hoping!!
If it gets to you I’m next @ptow
Lets hope so, this is our last chance today. Really quite a let down so far. Its funny as a few ice days, very low dp's and some snow around would normally leave me very happy, but so much more was forecasted.
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Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards
in Northwest Weather Discussion
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The thunderstorms arent all that but then I go to Florida regularly so maybe my bar is high. My lad lives in Pompey and he really reports a thunderstorm, same story here closer to London. As I say, the heat, however is real. The Bakerloo line on a hot day is an experience