Kent Blizzard

That's a common issue with snow events & rain tbh.... When events are in a close timeframe I like to look at the radar but then also look out the window....the window is the most accurate option obviously...... unless you live in a block of flats and someone is being naughty off the balcony above

Only a bag of nuts

You could use wunderground and search for the nearest station to you. http://www.wunderground.com/

This is no dig at anyone from the MO that offers input however one thing I have noticed over the years is when things are so marginal only a few put there neck on the line. It's a bit like when someone offers up something sever that happens they will often watch from a distance for a day or two. I fully admire those that do, can never be right all the time !!

2.9°C - DP says 3°C I thought the DP seemed bit high, nearest other stations to me reports DP 1°C & 2°C P.S Thanks above Ali

Is that a streamer setting up on rain today radar? bit hard to tell on my screen

I would literally wet my pants if the SE did see snow and got a dusting atleast, obviously because we want it but also might make some people just chill out and wait for the radars, obseravtions & window watch..... plus not getting too upset with every met office quote/update in future.

Considering some of the surprises across the Region this morning I'm surprised the meto are bullish about nothing really settling in the SE especially those with heights on there side. Only takes small adjustments !!

Interesting someone from the meto spells accumulation wrong

I see I have been made famous elsewhere

General rule of thumb in winter for snow is 850Hpa's below -7c and Geopotential 1000-500Hpa thicknesses of less than 524dam. If there is an E or SE'ly wind off a very cold continent snow can fall up to -1c at 850Hpa and thicknesses can be as high as 537dam as the air is dry and very cold. To work out dam values on the 500Hpa charts is a little more tricky. Very deep blues do not always mean very cold temperatures. Basically the rule of thumb for working them out is as follows.: Anything over 1000mb pressure you subtract from the dam, anything under 1000mb you add to the dam. Therefore a deep blue chart with a dam of 512 (right hand side on the key) over Kent but with a pressure of 970mb would mean you would add 30 to the 512 to give a thickness of roughly 542dam (ie normally warm enough for rain). On the other hand you might see a chart that is green or a light blue colour and everyone is getting excited. That is because it is likely that the key on the right hand side is suggesting something like 540 but because the pressure is 1025mb you then subtract 25 from 540 to leave you with 515dam thicknesses. snow territory In Jan 850Hpa's of less then -7c are normally good enough to bring snowfall. Settling snow normally occurs below -9c at sea level.

Ok thank you, hopefully I'm in the game but not counting my chickens to be honest.

Steve will you be drawing up another snow map for tonight/tomorrow?

You seem to of read that post then gone past my post a minute or two after that when I stated a few flakes are now falling

Spooky...... a few very tiny flakes falling now. P.S those worry about apps taking the snow symbols away ignore then now at this range.......it often happens and i bet 75% of you that have seen a few flakes this morning didnt have a snow symbol !!!

To save the sanity of this thread can I recommend rather than asking will it snow in such & such an area to sit back read posts from members, watch the rain radar & look out the window. No snow here!

The reason why I wouldn't get to down about Ian's comments is because we always use/see the term FI myself included, I never pay too much attention to anything t144+ ...why would I when even t72 can swap and change? The meto can only give guidance with the data they have and I'm sure they would agree that anything 14 days+ is pushing the limits somewhat. KEEP THE FAITH !!!

I remember as a kid getting excited seeing a snow symbol on the tv map, then watching out the window and more often than not just be surprised in the morning.

Ian F gives a little more info... Absolutely. I don't think those seeking colder conditions need be disheartened. There will inevitably be periods of greater interest.

I will be interesting to view the next meto 30day outlook and how that takes us to Mid Feb This was the last update for anyone that's not read it... UK Outlook for Tuesday 3 Feb 2015 to Tuesday 17 Feb 2015: The unsettled conditions will probably continue across most parts of the UK during the first half of February, particularly for northern and western parts. Southern areas are probably most likely to experience some lengthier dry and clearer spells. Temperatures are currently signalled to be near, or a little below normal, which will bring a risk of night-time frosts, and also a wintry mix of rain, sleet and perhaps snow at times. Updated at: 1440 on Mon 19 Jan 2015 http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Ian F's comment are a real kick in the crown jewels however things can change and surprise, there seems to be alot of chopping and changing with signals/views so I wouldn't be surprised if we get a more positive later in the week or early next week from Ian....We'll one can hope !!!

All round to yours for a Pyjama party then Jo at the first hint of snow? ....Oh actually that would of been a waste of time, for now

We have only just passed the halfway stage of Winter, still plenty of time and like Snowflake queen says we do well in Feb for snow....and also there is the start of early spring which can also bring decent snowfall. I think because of last year people are acting like drama queens in the MO If it's mid July do you rule out a heatwave at some time during the rest of summer? ....No !!!

little something over the SE here http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2015011912/36-779UK.GIF?19-12 Guys, my text box has gone faded and won't allow me to directly put in the image, is there a way to fix this? started to do it from lunchtime

If you base that just on Winter then yes you may want to move to the Highlands. I actually like our micro climate as we do get a bit of everything compared to most.