Puddy Galore
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1 hour ago, weirpig said:
We may be under threat But the pets are well protected.
Poor little moggie stuck in China no place for any moggies. I’d be hard pressed to get masks on my moggies let alone put them on a lead.
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39 minutes ago, swebby said:
Taken from the Gurniad web site.
There's always one!
Would be tempted to charge them for the repatriation flight (Virus clearly of enough concern for them to want to leave China) and the costs of the medical tests/care.
I’d go one step further. Find a charter plane back to whence he/she came and charge that cost along with original repatriation flight charge plus medical costs.
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would love to see some snow I really would but all this horrendous wind no thanks, its just dangerous. Give me a December 2010 freezing spell (wistfully I recall it) over these type of wind storms any day.
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11 minutes ago, Snowsie said:
As much as I love extreme weather I’m really hoping it eases soon. Got to get my daughter to school for 3.30am as she is on a trip to Iceland flying out in the morning
Don’t think I’m going to be getting much sleep tonight
I concur, wish this storm would do one now, I’m fed up with this wind. Don’t know if another squall line has just past over us but the wind was insane. Getting annoying now.
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8 minutes ago, fujita5 said:
People on cruises stop at ports and mingle with locals and tourists from other nations. If they picked up the infection and then docked somewhere else and got off the ship, they could have introduced it into new communities.
It seems like the virus moves quite slowly to begin with until there's a decent reservoir of infected humans, at which point it accelerates rapidly as happened in China and is now happening on the 2 'condemned' cruise ships.
Hopefully China has managed to keep their reservoir of infection contained to a degree, but further hotspots are almost inevitable in coming weeks/months.
Wasn’t sure which news headlines momentarily shocked me the most; the potential the novel virus may be closer at hand than I realised or the news about Philip Schofield - still trying to decide which one has surprised me the most
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bit close to home for me!!
Pictured: Briton on honeymoon cruise diagnosed with coronavirus
WWW.TELEGRAPH.CO.UKA British man on his honeymoon is among 41 passengers on a cruise ship in the Japanese port of Yokohama diagnosed overnight with the novel coronavirus, almost trebling the total number of...I think the concern was how many people he had been in contact with prior to him leaving for his honeymoon. Weddings wouldn’t be a great gathering for spreading any virus.
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28 minutes ago, Gray-Wolf said:
If you can't face the reality of it you should not be creating a demand for it! (again 'IMHO')
For most it is a trip to their local Supermarket and a plastic covered tray of what they fancy with no thought of where it comes from yet they act appalled at other peoples 'more visible' practices in butchery???
Rant over!
I can see that reasoning, lol. I’m vegetarian myself and don’t do meat aisles in supermarkets.......however, my cats are certainly not vegetarian; I’ve tried them on courgette bake but for some reason they don’t care for it As part of my degree (gosh nearly 20-years ago now) one of my projects was BSE. I think I chose that from a list of options given me because a friends father at the time was under suspicion of possibly being a BSE victim. As it turns out they diagnosed him with lewy body dementia. As part of my research I delved into slaughterhouse reports and any possibility of eating meat again was well and truly quashed.
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There is no doubt it is definitely an achievement to get this isolation hospital up and running in such a short space of time - credit where credit is due there. Maybe I’m becoming more cynical as I age but does this type of herculean undertaking (not to mention the cost involved) suggest the problems with this virus are expected to get far worse or are they just thinking ahead before the next novel virus erupts
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10 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
I wouldn’t trust a word that comes out from Chinese authorities.
The WHO haven’t leveled criticisms because they need them onside but the virus and person to transmission started well before China even admitted there was a problem .
And then they continued to double down that there was no sign of that human to human transmission .
Absolutely agree, all very untrustworthy.
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38 minutes ago, Gray-Wolf said:
John Hopkins now switched to 'hourly' updates as numbers are rising so fast;
And to cap it all we have a H5N1 outbreak close to Wuhan.....;
Deadly bird flu outbreak among chickens in China, near coronavirus epicentre
WWW.SCMP.COMChina reports new outbreak of deadly bird flu even as country struggles to contain spread of coronavirus.Edit: H5N1 is not yet H2H but shows a death rate of 60% (compared to the 1% to3% currently touted for 2019-nCoV?)...... but then 2019-nCoV was not H2H initially.....
Good grief! Sorry (again) but surely questions are now being asked around the world in senior health organisations about good animal husbandry practice in China and whether they actually make the grade in that department.
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23 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
It’s noticeable that the authorities in both the UK and France seem to not be reporting where new cases are being reported .
Initially here in France they reported the locations , now they don’t .
Also absent from the debate is this is now yet another virus which has started from a market which slaughters animals on the premises .
How many more viruses will China export to the rest of the world before they start changing their attitudes to the obsession with warm meat .
Apparently on the menu to be slaughtered at said market were toads , wolf cubs and god knows what else !
Notwithstanding that as the Chinese economy has grown the latest must have as a status symbol is shark fin soup , effectively slaughtered for just the fin . Or even more ivory and rhino horn made into some medicine !
I know we’re supposed to be sympathetic to people’s customs but seriously is nothing sacred in China .
Of course I forgot Pandas ! That’s it !
Yes, I think you saw my post a day or so ago when I touched on this. Again no offence but I have a very hard view on this indeed. When you embrace such a barbaric inhuman cruel culture with regard to food and the subsequent food hygiene problem it causes, you can only expect bad things to happen. My sincere sympathies are reserved for any innocent people who have already fallen or will fall victim to the virus as collateral damage. I always try to avoid anything made in China on account of their poor practices on food, human rights and their poor contribution to the environment but as they swamp the international markets with literally everything it is a very hard task. As I said it is about time the rest of the world got tough with China with some hard truths about their practices with a warning of some sort somehow suggesting they clean their act up.
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2 hours ago, Gray-Wolf said:
Problem comes when we hit peak infection?
Even if staff end up with 'mild' versions will they not still be expected to self quarantine and so be a loss to their ward/hospital?
Unlike the flu we have no 'Jab' for staff so they'll face the same chances of catching it as the rest of us?
Yes, that will be another element that will affect how the NHS operates on a day to day basis.
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As a former NHS staff member, they will be pretty awesome with dealing with it all. However, while they will deal with any emergency situations such as this (quarantine and everything), should there be a widespread outbreak, there will be quite a negative knock on effect to routine hospital work, i.e. as beds are used and if wards need isolating or “locked down” then I am afraid elective/routine stuff will be postponed. A bad normal flu winter or norovirus outbreak can have this effect - I have seen surgeons tearing their hair out when elective cases get cancelled as there are no beds.
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As a former NHS staff member, they will be pretty awesome with dealing with it all. However, while they will deal with any emergency situations such as this (quarantine and everything), should there be a widespread outbreak, there will be quite a negative knock on effect to routine hospital work, i.e. as beds are used and if wards need isolating or “locked down” then I am afraid elective/routine stuff will be postponed. A bad normal flu winter or norovirus outbreak can have this effect - I have seen surgeons tearing their hair out when elective cases get cancelled as there are no beds.
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12 minutes ago, Gray-Wolf said:
We'd better crack on with Lab grown proteins then!
I’ve been veggie for 30 years plus.....use different beans and lentils.
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49 minutes ago, Spikecollie said:
You might have missed my comments regarding China where people "eat anything that moves". I think it was probably the one country which I have visited where I experienced true culture shock. I visited Hangzhou for a week's work but as usual I made the absolute most of the time I had. I will never forget going to one supermarket which stocked normal brands like Coca Cola and Budweiser (not that I would buy either of those brands!) and having a wander around the fruit and veg areas. Nearby were some large plastic tubs containg dozens of enormous toads which were clambering on each other in order to get out of the tubs. There were toads hopping about on the floor!
While the animal husbandry practices of many countries go against my own beliefs and I would like to see much more worldwide respect for our fellow sentient beings, it is a morally difficult terrain to navigate - who are we to say what you can eat and kill and how...
There is no doubt that the food habits in China can and do contribute toward outbreaks of species jumping disease. Over population adds to this. Unless we address these issues as a global community the resultant problems will not go away.
Yuk and yuk, I can well believe it. I’ve read comments on the meat markets in China in here, its all very horrific and it would haunt me to the end of my days. The morals of it all belong in the medieval era in my humble view or in a HBO production like Deadwood where years ago they did feed dead humans to the pigs - poor pigs!!! In a modern educated world one would hope all human beings could strive to adopt an acceptable code of behaviour to all things living even if they are animals specifically bred for food, as you say it is just about having respect for all living things.. You are so very correct though it is very difficult terrain to navigate and I confess I avoided biomedical ethics at university like the plague for that very reason ......would have driven me to drink I fear.
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No offence intended whatsoever to anyone anywhere but I do wonder if the time is fast approaching where the WHO and indeed the rest of the world needs to sensitively try bringing China to the table to discuss bringing them into line with modern food hygiene levels. As an animal lover I find their practices very unpalatable (no pun intended) to say the least but on a practical world health level, China needs to pay heed to the fact for some reason (at least from what I can remember) these novel viruses often emanate from their country so surely they must be asking a simple question - why us?
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Elton John - Song for Guy - remember this being on the radio as we drove to Cheltenham in snow
Christopher Cross Arthur's Theme - think because we went to the cinema to see the film - hilarious
Bucks Fizz - Land of Make Believe
and this ....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5jhocSCSZzk
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This wind is driving me insane. Good job I lifted the hanging baskets down yesterday as there would be nothing left of them by now! It’s broken bits of my roses and dahlias and my runner beans are tied to everything I can think of to tie them to but how they are still standing upright I’ll never know
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I'm sure there are more scientific studies out there but suspect whether cold or hot temperatures kill more people is not so straightforward because of how cause of death is recorded.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44956310
For me the difference is if you are cold you can make efforts to warm yourself up (accepting of course the elderly sometimes can't or don't to this and develop hypothermia) whereas in extremely hot temperatures it is very difficult to get away from intense overbearing temperatures - not everyone has aircon and the elderly and infirm cannot always take showers.
It is preference and it would not do for us all to be the same I guess. My moan is - I hate this heat intensely and simply cannot wait for it "to do one". Not only does it affect my own health, I have an 87 year old mum to be concerned about and pets to try and keep cool, so no it doesn't suit everyone to be burnt to a crisp
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Well I'm a bit confused now. Do I need to ignore the Netweather automated weather forecast? It has removed or reduced the thunderstorm risk for my area although other weather forecasts have suggested I am in the severe risk - has the risk area changed at all?
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18 minutes ago, DiagonalRedLine said:
Apart from quite a decent storm last year in May, and the impressive overnight light show in July some years ago, feels like thundery activity in some parts has decreased. Pretty sure here, we used to get one or two decent afternoon thunderstorms (almost) every year back towards the 90’s and early 2000’s. And I think a few instances of some strong overnight continuous thunderstorms. It’s possible that selective memory could be getting in the way, though it still feels like thundery activity, along with intense, torrential, downpours to go along with it, seems fewer in the last 10 years. Bar a few odd exceptions.
My neighbour and I discussed this only yesterday. You are quite right we used to get far more thunderstorms than we currently seem to get. I well remember storms, both as a child and an adult, that used to rumble on through the night and sometimes well into the following morning. I do also remember afternoon storms as I would often feel panicked about getting home from work in time to get the horses in out of the storms when I could see them building up during the afternoon. Does anyone know what, if anything, has changed climate wise for the UK to explain why thunderstorms seem more of a rarity these days other than in the SE of the UK?
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Thunder and lightning in Wolves and the sky looks like armageddon ....
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Thunder and lightning in Wolves and the sky looks like armageddon ....
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Novel Coronavirus – China
in Space, Science & nature
Posted · Edited by Snowycat
Just out of interest (and I’m really not being or trying to be funny or sarcastic in anyway here at all) have you a background in biomedical science? I’m just curious. I did immunology some 22-years ago (gosh where did the intervening years go) as part of a biomedical science/health science degree and I found immunology (and embryology at a later point in the degree course) absolutely fascinating - I had to be surgically removed from my immunology text books . At the point I was studying the subject HIV was still very much the virus to conquer.