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1 minute ago, ChezWeather said:
What's the closest official station to Worksop/Retford
Expect we could see the record gone close to there
Gringley on the Hill, which was 36.8C at the last reading.
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1 minute ago, Candice said:
Eeeeek
midnight, someone’s ‘aving a laugh
That's the max temp in the hours (probably 6 hours) before midnight, so thankfully not the actual temp at midnight.
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10 minutes ago, Nick L said:
The London area will likely see peak heat at around 1pm, as cooler uppers start to take effect.
When do you reckon mid-Essex will see the peak heat? Presumably not long after 1pm?
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8 minutes ago, Snowy L said:
I'll give the Met Office the benefit of the doubt and assume they are busy validating a record breaking temperature, which is why they've failed to communicate to the public what the maximum temperatures have been since 3pm.
Regardless, I see no reason for them not to have tweeted out hourly temperatures, yet they've only done so at 10am, 12pm and 3pm so far. Given they don't make all the temperature data freely and easily available on their website, this is pretty poor on one of the most important days in history for UK weather.
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2 minutes ago, Nick L said:
The way official temperature data is recorded is so poor. It's patchy, out of date and not easily accessible. In this day and age it should not be difficult to build a website with real time data like personal weather stations do on Wunderground.
Agreed - and I think other countries do it better than us too (despite us being a "weather loving" country). I had a look at MeteoFrance's website the other day and there's far more data on there.
It annoys me as well how the MetOffice "03xxx" weather stations have easily accessible data but the "99xxx" ones do not. It creates a very patchy picture depending on what you have access to. There's no official single place to look at live data when there should be.
3 minutes ago, Snowy L said:Been poor with details today, leaving us guessing.
I wouldn't have thought it'd have hurt to tweet hourly updates instead of sporadic ones. They've now deleted two tweets due to errors in them. I appreciate today is pretty busy for them but they've had enough notice...
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The Met Office seem to have deleted the tweet about 37.5C at Kew!
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Already 29.8C at the Writtle MetO station in Chelmsford. Looks like it's one of the hottest in the country at the moment.
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Already 29.8C at the Writtle MetO station in Chelmsford. Looks like it's one of the hottest in the country at the moment.
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Just now, h2005__uk__ said:
That's the maximum recorded in the 6 hours before 3am GMT (4am BST), so likely to be the temperature at 10pm.
Below is the actual minimum on Tuesday night according to today's 12z GFS.
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19 minutes ago, Lukesluckybunch said:
yes pretty amazing really,but its monday night into tuesday the very warm night isnt it?
20 minutes ago, ShinyDave said:At the very least this has to increase the risk of Tuesday night being oppressive for a wider area if the breakdown slows up. GFS 12z already has 27C minimum for Humberside (I still can't calculate that registering as a real thing that might really happen) and 24C for basically anywhere along and east of the A1 corridor.
That's the maximum recorded in the hours (3 or 6 perhaps?) before 3am GMT (4am BST), rather than the minimum of the night.
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4 minutes ago, Nick L said:
Yeah I find this advice bonkers! Unless you have shutters on the OUTSIDE of your windows (like in Spain, for example) you're simply turning your house into a greenhouse.
I haven't found this at all. I have a southwest-facing conservatory with a big glass sliding door opening onto the living room, which has a blackout roller blind over it in the living room. If the blind's left up and the door's open then the living room warms up quickly on a sunny afternoon (useful in the winter). If I close the blind and keep the doors shut then the inside temperature doesn't increase anywhere near as much.
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8 minutes ago, Andy Bown said:
Yes however shutting everything up will then still or stagnate the air indoors.
It depends if you want fully fresh, hot air or slightly stale, cool air. Most people keep their windows closed for long periods during winter and the air must get stale then. The best thing to do is surely to keep windows and curtains closed at the peak of the heat and then open them once the inside temperature is higher than the outside, usually from late evening.
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1 hour ago, Andy Bown said:
All that advice to keep doors and windows shut in the hottest parts of the day but why would you when there is a strong wind blowing through!?
If it's hotter outside then it'll warm the house up.
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7 minutes ago, Djdazzle said:
Surely there will be a "stay at home" instruction issued?
This isn't China!
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22 minutes ago, Djdazzle said:
Never seen a temperature of 39C on these apps.
Neither have I. The WeatherPro app (run by MeteoGroup who also supply the BBC with forecasts) is now going for 40C in London on Tuesday.
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9 minutes ago, pinball wizard said:
With the current model runs predicting similar levels of heat incoming to the UK I think there should be some consideration as to the impacts on people and their health rather than willing for records to be broken.
The government and Met Office will do that. This is a weather forum so people will undoubtedly be interested in extreme weather. "Willing" something to happen won't change the outcome anyway!
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7 minutes ago, Carl said:
Have they?
Higher probability for 'extreme' temps (i.e. mid-high 30s) but lower probability for breaking the all-time record.
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2 minutes ago, legion_quest said:
Those things sound like mini helicopters. You trade not being able to sleep due to heat for not being able to sleep because of noise. By the time you'd get used to the noise, the heat event would likely be over.
On top of which, using all the electricity - imagining that lots more people had ACs and used them - would only make things worse.
We need to be cutting energy use, not finding ways to use more.
I don't use as much heating as many people do in the winter as I don't get cold easily. I guess the same applies to others who use A/C in this country. Swings and roundabouts!
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1 hour ago, Snowycat said:
I can understand that reasoning entirely. However, apart from running costs there is also, believe it or not, health reasons why some wouldn’t turn to A/C. Those of us with Sjogren’s are advised to avoid air conditioning as it worsens the condition, which is uncomfortable enough at times
I wasn't aware of that. I guess you have to avoid places that have A/C running too?
In terms of cost, the portable A/C unit I have runs at about 780 watts when at full pelt, so going by the UK average electricity cost of 28p/kWh then it costs about 21.8p/hr to run.
That'd be £1.74 for 8 hours overnight, but they usually have timers so could switch off after 4 or 5 hours and reduce that down to about £1.
I know some people who have gas central heating but also use an electric heater occasionally. They're usually around 2,000 watts so could easily cost over £2 for an evening's usage. (And of course it's easier to warm up than it is to cool down, so you could argue running an additional electric heater is less worthwhile unless you're really in need of it.)
It depends how you want to spend I suppose.
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6 hours ago, Alderc said:
This is not model post, but moderators can all the guilt tripping one liners about loss of lives be removed. This doesn’t happen in winter when everyone is baying for days of blizzards and subzero temps or when the likes of Storm Eunice cane along which was also clearly life threatening.
Maybe another thread should be opened for concerns about that?
Above post is from @Alderc in the model thread, but I agree about the 'guilt trips'. We all know the dangers of heat, particularly for certain groups of people, so I don't think it needs reiterating every few posts in the model thread.
I also don't think it'll help if non-weather enthusiasts find the thread and read such comments, especially if the extreme heat doesn't materialise. It'll seem like the "boy who cried wolf".
Appropriate warnings will be issued by the government as and when necessary.
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I still don't understand why more people haven't bought a portable A/C unit to help with sleeping. I know they're not cheap (£250-£300 these days) but we've been seeing evidence of warmer summer events for at least a decade, so if I hadn't been able to afford one then I'd have saved up for one as a priority.
I bought one 6 years ago and regularly use it on warm nights otherwise there's no way I'd be able to sleep in the heat.
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On 14/07/2021 at 22:05, h2005__uk__ said:
If we don't hit 30C in mid-Essex this summer then it'll be the first year not to do so since 2009. (Mid-Essex being either the Andrewsfield or Writtle stations.)
I posted something similar a year ago and then we had 7 days of >30C temperatures; 6 of them in a row!
Looks like this will indeed be the first year since 2009 that neither Writtle nor Andrewsfield achieve 30C.
The closest was on 18th July - Writtle at 29.7C; Andrewsfield at 29.4C.
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I don't understand why more people don't use portable A/C units. Obviously not everyone can afford them, given they cost around £230 new (plus they cost about 50p per night to run), but it's surely a worthwhile thing to save up for. Climate change will clearly make summers less bearable.
They do a great job in a small bedroom, where you can at least escape to for a while, and of course it makes sleeping bearable too. Even if it's only been in the low 20sC during the day, it still gets to the mid-20Cs upstairs in my house, so whacking the A/C on for a couple of hours reduces the temperature down to something more comfortable for sleeping. If it's been hotter outside then the house is warmer and I keep the A/C on all night.
I recently bought a new one bought also have a second-hand one (made in 1999) and my parents have one they bought in 1998. Both still work fine because they're obviously not used that much, so new ones bought now should, in theory, last for many years.
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Is it just me who doesn't consider this week to have been a heatwave? I noticed local BBC news describing it as a "mini" heatwave which is more accurate.
Much of the SE & E Anglia didn't hit 30C - and stations which did hit it only just scraped it. The temperatures for the rest of the week didn't exceed 27-29C.
I appreciate it's been more of a heatwave in the west of the UK though, where temperatures reaching 30C is obviously rarer.
Temperature Record Monitor Thread
in Spring Weather Discussion
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Any reason why so many of the Met Office readings for 2pm haven't yet arrived? I use WQRadar normally but it's not showing them yet - neither is Weatherobs.