Winter Frost

Thankfully still just about bright here at 5pm.

Didn't like the end of the 00z, hopefully 6z is good.

Oh my goodness. Cannot get over the last section of the gfs P. It goes from a NE to a N!! Exactly what happened in 2010, would be fantastic if this happened again!! Fingers crossed.

Is it just me or do certain posters on the model output thread always say that its mild and be negative? It seems like some can never say cold is coming. I think some might even be trying to wind people up.And whats with people saying to reserve the cold for December? It is 6th November and days are less than 9 hours long now, of course snow can stick around now if its cold.

The lows may undercut but where is the cold going to come from? Looking on gfs cold is way up at Greenland so undercutting might not be much use? I personally would prefer the cold to come from there anyway as the Easterlies don't do well here.

Yes it was but I have seen lying snow in October. November snow is not rare in NI and Scotland. Anyway this is off topic so moving on.

Its not exactly rare to have snow in November. Perhaps in England but I think you must've forgotten about November 2010.

Look at the patch of 520 dam over the Atlantic. This is what I was talking about earlier.

Its been on since September. We've only had 1/2 frosts but a whole lotta nights were the temp hit 2 and 3c. A few days ago it was quite wintry with snow down to 1,000 feet.. at midday I recorded a temp of 3c here.

Your dog is gorgeous.

Well lets hope that this winter is nothing like the disaster that we received last year. It would appear that the cold in North America has started up again as evident from the snow storm in Maine.. which to me is quite worrying. I'm not sure if it will impact the British Isles but if it were to I would not be surprised. There are only a few winters that I know of which were cold on both sides of the Atlantic - 2010 and 1963. People keep talking about the cold coming at the end of the month but i've looked at the GFS Parallel and while there is massive change in each run they all seem to show the mild over us. In saying that we could get some snow from the cold in Canada as last year Scotland and Ireland did receive some snow around February from that. (I received 3/4 inches one night) I would disagree with the person who said that the cold air will moderate too much, yes it will moderate but if it keeps coming over and cooling the ocean moderation will be reduced. (like last year)

Snow on high ground?? Can't see where. Snow in NI to lowish levels the other day but was forecast.

Yes but it can bring cold. Last year Ireland and Scotland received snow which originated there.