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Can an educated person in here explain to me how the winter forecasts from ECM and Glosea have produced the above "predictions". I ask as fairly up with weather trends I read about almost record low arctic sea ice, open arctic waters, solar minimums with very few sun spots, a starting record low polar vortex etc etc. All as I read on here positives for proper cold winter spells, I know its an average for DJF, but how are this years signs from the seasonal models so much different to last years bust of a more colder winter, to produce a what looks like typical dross of a wet/warm winter. One hopes that they will bust the other way as they did last year.

Thanks for spotting that as I hadn't. Yes I always enter both temp and rainfall comps. Good to see I went up and not down by getting my missing entry, lol... Also how nice to actually win a temp comp, I usually do poor in that and much better on the rainfall one. One thing I have noticed is that when I am wrong it seems to be just over 2/3 days extra rain thereby proving the rainfall comp can by screwed by something you can never see in the future. So called wet months can be determined by just a few days over the whole month.

11.3c 84mm

We have had some lovely weather however with cool/cold nights offsetting the warmer day temps. This change of pattern I think will lift the CET, it was 17c this morning compared to 7c most of last week. In fact personally here it will be warmer this week than last week, with temps 5 to 10c higher at night, ie back to normal.

Nice covering in the Alps again this morning. Although forecast I think is for temps to rise quite quickly after today.

Forgot on time again. Well it would be rude not to take the average temp going begging, lol.. 14.3c 68mm

How many people actually think bout having air con. Trouble is, with heating most people use from Nov to April or pos longer if you are cold souls, personally we dont use it that much, in fact these days I use the air con more than heating but we do have a log burner. The old thing 2 warm day and a storm dont apply anymore, so the heat didnt last long enough to spend money on air con. Maybe its my age bracket but most people I speak to these days dont do this 30c plus weather any more. With the consistent muggy humid weather we have in this country with sticky night and this seemingly hotter weather I would think air con will become the thing to have, of course budgets allowing. In fact I would think it will become a growth industry.

Get an air con unit, its a superb investment in this what appears to be changing world. The new ones do fan, heating and cold and very cheap to run. I got 2 the other year and wished I had got them years ago, however be careful where you go to get them we got quotes some were double of the company we used. I used a local company that are superb.

I am not sure its autumn, although you would be sooner into autumn where you are I think. Driving locally over the weekend I saw many examples of trees looking like that, however and I may be wrong it looks more like drought/heat stress or virus as it seemed more like 1 or 2 types of trees with this problem. Locally I wouldn't expect to see autumn colours yet. Having said that my vines seems to be dying back early this year but again it looks like the leaves have a leaf virus/worms rather that autumn. PS I love all your photos you take.

It was on the cards, but beating the date record by what will be over 4c, is pretty amazing. Also something I saw yesterday that Emmelord in Holland reached 31.9c beating the date record, however last year on the same day it only reached 16.3c, that also is something to behold.

In Lassie talk that properly means ripped out any living plant and dug it all over so its just bare soil. Could be on the off chance it then means sowing all the over winter plants like onions broad beans etc.

I know the winds are coming, but what a non event so far. I without checking the details presumed we would be flooded and have 40mph winds by now, stupid me for not looking at it more closely. Very very very muggy humid foul weather, cant wait till all these southwest winds are blown away with a fresher air stream. This muggy weather is what kills tomatoes and late pots this time of the year.

17.3c 66mm Please, thanks.

Steady needed rain this morning. However there are snails every where, climbing everywhere, they must be enjoying this, having been hidden for a long time. Never seen so many in the day, back garden however only a few as keep them well under control as I like to eat my fruit and veg not donate it to snails and slugs.

That rain line is running north north west, so those that have it will keep it as it doesnt seem to be moving eastwards, just we have cloud now but the heat ( not as hot) wont go here till tomorrow I think when that cold front finally passes over.

Be thankful you are not in Holland, Belgium Germany, temps up to 35c again and in places higher.

Probably the places that stand the best chance of breaking the record.

Oh that is so right, why wont governments, councils etc start planting more trees everywhere. They use up carbon dioxide and stop flooding and thats just to start with, let alone protect and help nature.

25c at 8am in a seaside town. Horrible. The sooner today is over the better. Bring back yesterday, lovely sea breeze and 25c,

I am so glad of two things. 1 living by the sea and a lovely sea breeze keeping it to 26c and not sweaty. Unlike tomorrow which will be joining everyone else with incessant heat as winds go SW, hopefully it will be ok here thursday with another sea breeze day. 2 The money I spent on air con couple of years ago, without it dont know what I would do.

SO today begins the 4 or 5 days of excitement and dread which includes 2 days of extreme dread or pleasure, depending on which ever your preference is. Whilst understanding peoples love of extremes please be aware of the heat for some people, its as bad as the extreme cold many like on here, only cold is easier to get away from. Summer should be 20 to 24c sunny skies, cool breeze and warm eves, why does it seem we just cant get that these days for more than a day or two. Oh and you must add in days like yesterday with some pretty powerful showers and storms, cant remember a day like that for some time.

Morning Snipper, This might be better of in the gardening thread as it seems to have got lost.

Do you know which types of snakes they are or even slow worms. I think by law you must tell them due to this PC world we live in, as if it was proven that you knew and someone got scared or bitten you would take the wrap, sad world...

This is much better weather this week. Lovely sunny skies, nice breeze, top temps just over 20c, absolutely perfect, why do you need heatwaves lol..