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1 minute ago, Djdazzle said:

Paul, what do you think prevented this easterly from bring a classic? Did the remnants of the LP (Darcy) scupper deep convection?

I dont think it helped all that much and cannot remember having a frontal LP system before the main event before, that usually happens after the best convergence driven showers have dumped their load. I remember in the 2009 February Thames Snow Streamer, 2 days later the was an area of Snow from a frontal system that impacted the SE and areas to the North and West of London did best along with the Chilterns, ironically there was too much Mild air for Coastal Kent and Essex entrained with Mild Sectors and South Easterly winds making it the wrong side of marginal.

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I know the snow chance are still possible for tomorrow but it feels like this spell is running out of steam and on its way out.

Snowfall would place this in my Top 10 for my lifetime but closer to 10 than 5 probably settling around about 8th. 

Depth of Cold would put it around 7th over the last 48 years.

The problem with this spell as others have noted has been the build up, you simply cant expect the temperatures 2 days before to be 12c, the day before 7c and with no frosts to cool the saturated ground down there really was going to be problems with laying snow. Snowfall intensity has been pretty awful and nowhere near the 3 big spells of 1987, 1991 and 2010. 

All 3 of those spells were the traditional Sunshine and Shower type Easterlies with convection growing upto 15,000ft and Thundersnow reported in all of them, this spell like the last Beast in 2018 have relied on showers coming along through a stratus deck with no sunshine between the showers.

So again although not anywhere near the best it certainly has been good enough for sledging, snowman building and Ice Days which is what you would expect from a Scandinavian sourced airflow in early February.

Hope the cold holds on and any Atlantic wetness is deflected away, would love to see a week of cold Scandi High dry weather to get that cold into the ground and who knows the next snow to come after that could be of a much better quality.

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1545z Obs

Temp -0.2c

Dewp -5.4c

Wind from the East at 12mph

Weather is Cloudy.

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Icicles are starting to appear here now hanging off the eaves sure sign that we had about 4 hours of above zero temperatures this afternoon and the temp is once again nosediving. Sorry to say going to be an ice skating rink tonight again. Sublimation today has been pretty bad as well, the 8cm on the grass from first light has reduced to 5cm now and even with some hefty snow showers in the last few hours. 

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12 minutes ago, Southender said:

@Paul Sherman Can feel the pain. The amount of times this has been us!

Lol yh the amount of times we have seen snow showers 25 miles offshore ploughing into Kent or a Clipper Storm running up the Dover straights and we can see the cloud tops.

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Coming down heavy again think people down here are bored with it nowv

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Missed the big shower that hit South Woodham by a few miles and got the edge which was the famous polystyrene balls woohoo - Lovely 3 mile walk though 

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3 minutes ago, Neilsouth said:

Hey matey do you have a link to the latest Fax charts for tomorrow? Struggling to find them!

 

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5 minutes ago, lawrenk said:

Any good for Hailsham Paul?

We’ve been a bit betwixt and between last day or so.

Yes Hailsham in a good position for tomorrow 

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3 minutes ago, seaside 60 said:

Stupid question but how come the temp has gone up over freezing, I thought there were no mild sectors now.
Also I am not impressed with the temps they dont seem cold enough lol.

The snow is still melting here from ground up esp near buidlings it seems that the ground is so so wet and no real cold to get dwn and freeze the ground.

By the way is it a record yet because it hasn't stopped snowing here since sun am, although it could snow like this for the whole month and we wouldn't get much laying.

SST's having an effect  down in Shoebury but temps wont get much above 0.5c today and with the dewpoint being way way negative everything that falls should still be white. We are about 6 miles west of you and a full degree colder so no Sublimation of the snow at all and no icicles on the roofs or car bumpers yet so plenty cold in the ground here.

30NOV 2010 To Dec 02nd 2010 that streamer had constant snow for 72 hours so we have to make it through till tomorrow morning around 8am to beat that

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Easterly wind is really affecting the temp down here as well, Shoeburyness just hit 1.3c in an East wind and my weather station has crept above freezing for the first time since 7am on Sunday morning. We are now at 0.2c here.

But crucially the Dewpoint is -5c so no chance of anything other than Snow falling.

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3 hours ago, Snowfish2 said:

Hi Paul. Whars your take on streamer for kent today pleas e

Having had a look at some charts tomorrow looks really good for your location.

A convergence Zone sets up through Mid and East Kent and also parts of Sussex bending away into the English Channel.

Could be some decent dumps of Snow from Medway Towns Eastwards to Dover, and places like Brighton across to Folkestone and maybe Eastbourne etc could get in on some decent falls tomorrow

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Do we have a new Streamer Name here the BSS

Blackwater Snow Streamer

Looking good along that line 

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Just been out to do a measure up looks like 2 Inches extra and still snowing nicely here. 

Max Level is 9cm with mostly 8cm where it has drifted we have some 12cm piles. Deep and crisp and even. Off out at 10am for new sledging fun

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2 minutes ago, Surrey said:

There will be some kind of reasoning behind it.. I guess we will find out over the coming days... 

 

Hats of to the NMM on this mornings streamer.. Closest model I can find showing it 

 

Arpege nailed it as well 

 

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Heads up people in SW Essex and SE London a much better line of convection run ENE to WSW from the around Maldon through Basildon/Thurrock 

Looks much more intense on radar these returns 

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4 minutes ago, Snowfish2 said:

Hi Paul. Whars your take on streamer for kent today pleas e

Just making a brew but will have a look at some charts in a mo for you

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Some early morning pictures Day 3 on the 9th Feb - Sledging day again this morning

Cleared the car at 4pm yesterday stupidly - 9cm on the untouched grass since 8am Sunday 

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Just woken up to some idiot in a Mercedes SLK whose back wheels are spinning around like a Hamsters Wheel, he cant even make it up a small incline and is making a right old mess and skidding sideways.

Anyway a good few cms have fallen probably around 4cm extra atm so upto 9cm on the grass now with is untouched and the car has some impressive totals on it.

Will get some pics in a bit, bin day today if they even turn up

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1 minute ago, Snowfish2 said:

And is there more forecast for. Kent then? 

Hopefully keep checking to your NE - These are initiating on the Dengie Peninsular where the Thames Snow Streamer usually starts and heads WSW

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We have lift off at 2345

Snow Shower incoming Moderate Intensity

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Thats more like it.

Look near Foulness Island, now thats a better Estuary Shower big intensity from Initiation

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Just now, Daniel* said:

If any night is going to produce it will be this one -12C uppers as cold as February 2009 while I’m not making parallels.

Really hope so. Going to be glued to the radar next 3 hours I think.

The front has pretty much decayed now and the North Kent energy is shrinking away south now.

Hoping we can get some proper showers going now between here and tomorrow morning. 

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Just now, Daniel* said:

Wind now even gone east in Southend that’s good to see selfishly!

And its really got quite strong in the last 90 minutes as well. 

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1 minute ago, Southender said:

Yeah. Just been outside and watched the clouds for 5 mins. Defo a WSW track to them now

Yep changed over to ENE around 845pm and solid ENE now