Luke Attwood

Its the same as always a near miss for the UK,the cold air always to far out east.also notice the Azores high coming back in. We are just in southeast winds in nothing particularly cold.

Yes how cold..will it be if the ECM is correct?

So why we looking at Netherlands, doesn't mean much for the UK does it?

Sorry what is this showing ali?

Kind of -5/6 at night?

That's right still a bit up in the air,but would u say that cold is certain for next week?

Correct me if I'm wrong,but looking at the models are we not on the edge of a two week cold spell?

What would be the daytime maxes here you think?

Wow yes off to a quick start, -10 uppers already there! Lol

Thinking about it,I guess it wouldn't be as severe as December 2010 but temps nationwide would only be 2/3c I would imagine.

Why u don't think it wouldn't be then?

Yes to be honest,I think the 6z could be a very misleading run.I still feel the easterly is very much on! And the ECM later will put it in its place

What do you mean,I was just saying the control is terrible in comparison to the op

Well the control is way off the mark,with the high collapsing into southern Europe... Mmmm

So is this positive for cold?

The signal is there for high pressure to move in then move east northeastward,the only confusion is that the gfs has it more east and south,rather then north and east like the ECM. This is crucial as to whether we get cold or not,we don't want the gfs to be correct as the Cold will escape us and filter down across Germany and France and northern Spain.this is usually what happens here sadly in the UK while we watch Europe freeze, we are stuck in mild southwesterly winds. So I do hope the ECM is correct with its positioning of the high.

The ECM is great again this morning let's just hope its right. It looks very cold and increasingly snowy!

Well as with any northerly,favoured areas are Scotland and coastal areas. But with that cold over the UK there is every chance of snow.

Yes i agree that's the problem,but wouldn't it be rare if we didn't have HP down to the Azores,it always seems to be there! Hah

A better looking 6z at 144, a bigger cold pool over the med.therefore lower pressure over southern Europe which is good to see.

But your giving 1987 as a example,god that is years ago I think you should be a bit more realistic.

Well it may not be the main problem, but it certainly doesn't help our chances of cold!

Very unlikely PV looks to organized

I think we are all missing the trick here, as long as pressure stays low over Greenland which it looks like it will do then we will not see anything particularly cold and sustained.So to sum it up the the theme going into next week is for mainly westerly winds occasionally switching northwesterly bring the odd colder shot.. But nothing sustained all very boring really.

The vortex is just relentless in throwing LP's our way! The outlook is poor for cold fans for the reason I just said no sustained cold coming our way,not only that also with pressure rising over southern Europe. Well let's let this rubbish winter continue