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  1. Jethro, AGW is proven and has been proven for years! Anyone with an ounce of meteorogical and physics knowledge knows this! Billions of pounds of investment, hundreds of scientists and tens of countries politicians trying to change our carbon print must tell you this! Your arguing against this planets elite scientists! This forum cannot move forward until you except this very basic argument! The argument should now be "what does the warming mean for the planet?" "how do we adapt"

    I'm sorry but I disagree.

    The lab experiments you talk of are of the Laws of Physics, I'm not disputing those laws.

    This is really a semantic argument but......

    When it comes to applying those laws to the world at large, it is impossible (with our current level of knowledge) to make the step from hypothesis to theory.

  2. BFTV! Finally someone that speaks some sense! This board is so frustrating, you have to sift through so much rubbish, it's good to have you on here to bring some realism back!!

    To be fair to GW, how can millions of square kilometres of of high albedo ice loss not have a large effect on atmospheric circulation? If the position of land masses, mountain chains, sst patterns and various other factors can influence weather patterns on a hemispheric scale then why not changes in sea ice?

    Perhaps it was just a snap reaction, but to say recent atmospheric anomalies have had nothing to do with sea ice loss is plain wrong. There are studies and peer reviewed work published on that very effect of sea ice changes. Perhaps the recent prolonged solar minimum and the changes in the Arctic both contribute (as well as numerous other factors) to the Autumn/Winter patterns we've seen in the last few years, but to say one or the other has no influence or scientific backing is untrue.

    This paper may be of interest.

    http://www.colorado.edu/geography/class_homepages/geog_4271_f10/readings/week_12_13_francis_et_al_2009GL037274.pdf

    Nobody is claiming the world will end if we end up with no summer sea ice. I don't think anybody is even claiming the demise of humanity because if it, but the possibility does exist that the changes we are seeing in the Arctic, if continued, could have a major effect on the global climate. There will always be some positives along with the negatives and people can and will adapt, but whether you believe the changes are from mostly AGW or not, if things continue in the same vein as the last decade then we may all be around to witness a fundamental shift in the workings of the Arctic climate and ecosystem, which is why I personally find it fascinating to monitor.

  3. Dont mislead people, we have records dating back to the 1700's that is 3011 years so not on absolute record but youd have to be an absolutely incredible spinster to not conclude we are in unprecedented times. Our planet is in danger and denialist attitudes like yours are only going to harm us all. As a world we need to pull together to help ourselves

    Its the 2nd lowest in the last 30yrs, rather then 'on record'

    Concern for me is a fundemental 'step change'

    There will always be areas above below /average

    Lets see what the next 4 weeks brings but talk of sub 4m at present looks OTT

  4. Hi guys new to the forum,

    I have no scientific background and no knowledge just a fascination with the weather and science!

    i just want the experts thoughts on the findings that the oil spill has since the 12th of june until now slowed the gulf loop current, most mainstream scientists expect the current to sort itself out pretty soon but as we have no comparable disaster there are worries we can not be so sure.

    It is thought the stalling has effected the gulf stream and is a big player in the pakistan and china floods as the gulf stream has gone further south and changed shape since the 12th of june.

    could this effect our climate leading into winter and beyond????

    Here is a supporting link......

    http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-01a/1.shtm

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