Having followed this thread for about 3 winters, and with limited knowledge, and living darn south (below m4 by 10 miles!!!) even I recognise that despite some great potential this year it really has been so close but no cigar and i think that's how it might stay down here. I'm blaming the ecm...proper eye candy with no end product! I dont have any models to post, my post will almost definitely get moved to another thread but at least that's something that will have at least verified this winter! Some excellent experts on here...keep up the good work!