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1 hour ago, chris55 said:

Something's brewing...

With the record breaking SSW we have recently seen and subsequent shifting of the Strat profile and lack of westerly winds up high, plus further down welling of patterns, it doesn't surprise me that the models are toying with the idea of another shot of proper cold air as we head through March.

The probability of another true beast is quite low simply going on historic probabilities, however some more widespread snowfall is certainly a possibility ❄️️

Will be viewing the coming days runs with renewed wintry interest  

Major beast from the east in March *and* April in 1965. Or was it '66... 

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28 minutes ago, JennyJane1 said:

Well, ale be damned....

Hope it's not a bitter pill to swallow.

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6 minutes ago, snowray said:

GFS 12z looking very similar to the ICON, I know that many are looking out for spring like weather now and some warmth, but one more cold snap with snowfall could well be on its way after mid month just in time for EASTER.

 

Come closer, oh mighty beast!

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19 minutes ago, Bricriu said:

I am a snow addict . The child in me would like to say i wuz there for the three months of it.

 The adult side of me would probably want the snow to go after a month of driving around in it.

 

Not so many cars on the roads in those days. Plenty of people still used bicycles, buses and trains. And walked.  The windows inside the buses were often iced up. The wind whipped in from the beastly east, south east and north east. Take your pick! The coldest days were with a south easterly and leaden skies. The weather forecast at 5.55pm on the home service [now radio 4] quite often had warnings of moderate to heavy snowfalls in various parts of the country, or countrywide.  Totally dream weather for snow fanatics.  Here's a pic of a leaden sky in the South East [Sutton, Surrey], in Jan or Feb 1964, grabbed from the web...

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17 minutes ago, JennyJane1 said:

vests, your birds have taken advanced knitting classes?

...and knitting them with weeds or summat else from the garden. Impressive!

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7 minutes ago, Bricriu said:

I know. I was just responding to lassie's wish for nearly three months of a big freeze

 

Three months of it was great for children but not, i suspect, for adults ... except for the snow geeks. I wuz there.  

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15 hours ago, Bricriu said:

Bring back 1962!

 

Strictly speaking, and as you may know, December 1962, and Jan + Feb 1963. The "big freeze" fizzled out as March got going. 

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The model output discussion indicates a Beast From The East MkII might be on the cards, in about 10 days. 

 

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2 hours ago, Ed Stone said:

I'm sure (well, almost sure) that I can recall March & April 1965 being cold and snowy, and dominated by mostly easterly winds...?

With the PFJ being so far south, this year, I don't think another incursion of very cold air can be ruled out... Late April 1981 was a bit odd, too...

 

Yes, March and April '65 very much were.

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3 hours ago, alexisj9 said:

Yep it is but didn't stop anyone doing anything, really quote strange, didn't even see people slipping around. It was just normal which I found strange.

I'm not keen on normality of any kind.  It's soooooo ...boring - except when the sun is shining on unthawed snow, or wher shining in the spring, summer or early autumn.  

 

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14 minutes ago, snowray said:

Maybe when we get brexit over and done with we can get some of our good old British measurements back, like inches, feet and add hooves too.

 

Good idea. I'm hoofing it for the night now. G'nite one and all.

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Just seen this - possible snow event on 16th March... in the SE.

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28 minutes ago, Sweetdream said:

I know in 2010 the whole country was covered in snow apart from upland in east anglia. We were the only ones who didn’t even get a flake. Lol 

2010 i believe was the year a small low formed over NE France or Holland in the evening, moved north-ish while expanding in size, then a tad west, and sat over southern england all night ... giving us in west sussex 1ft of snow.  i presume east anglia was too far away to be much affected by it.

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29 minutes ago, Bricriu said:

Well i was going to hibernate till next winter, but if there is even a slim chance of snow(as some models suggest) within the next 10 days i'll postpone that.

 

Maybe on the 10th day or just beyond.  

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6 minutes ago, D.V.R said:

Calm the f**k down, I goat this.

 

Not an udder pun!

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2 minutes ago, lassie23 said:

 haven't heard their stuff for years

"Ricochet" also a very good album, by TD.

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1 minute ago, Snowflake Queen said:

43mins n 10 seconds ? Ok then earphones in ??

 

Yes. LPs/albums were a tad shorter back in the day lol.  The album "Phaedra" was a big hit.
"Rubycon" was also gr8. Loads more albums by Tangerine Dream

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I'm into Alpha Centauri   

 

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1 hour ago, lassie23 said:

we need more record breaking ssw's

 

no sign of him/her

 

Scandi high in place a week or tomo or Tuesday/Weds... on at least one set of synoptics. Another set shows a low over Norway giving us a cold northerly/north north westerly ... with a polar low moving south. I really like polar lows. But that's all quite a way off.

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Talking of frogs, as some of us were ... i snapped this mass of spawn this afternnon in a field that is often quite flooded. A smaller mass was nearby. Click the image to enlarge it if you like.

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46 minutes ago, lassie23 said:

my parsnip froze raining 9c, back to the usual schlop

 

Parsnips are fine during and after frost. They can be kept in the ground all winter. I dug two up today and -  they were in very good condition and tasted yummy.

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8 minutes ago, JennyJane1 said:

Daffs are quite hardy, they don't seem to mind the snow.

The well advanced ones here were not at all keen on the mega cold at night. The leaves and budding stems drooped big time - without any snow on them to weigh them down.

 

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5 minutes ago, lassie23 said:

damn winter is over then

Absolutely by no means. The synoptics aside, frogs can be mating here in Jan/Feb one night, then wake up one day to see snow falling. It happens. We have a pond, lol. 2 or 3 nights before the beast hit last week, i saw a female great crested newt on the hunt for food. Hope she made it to somewhere not mega freezing.

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18 minutes ago, lassie23 said:

i heard that it could tap into some cold air from the continent due to the trajectory of the weather system

Or from polar regions? I'd better have a look at the latest synoptics.  Yes, now looks like easterlies [-ish] from the continent, not northerlies, and not directly from Siberia, could be on the cards. Interesting. If it happens, those easterlies would be slipping south, but not from polar reagions.  Maybe we'll all be radar watching in a week's time if not before, lol.  NB, the winds might come in from scandinavia, but sort of not from directly from a scandi high. Fun times *might* be approaching in a few days. 

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Next weekend - possibly very windy with the potential for rain to turn to snow in central and southern areas. Source: the met office.

That'll be caused by a deep low that's expected to move east-ish across the south or the channel.