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From webcams it is snowing in Buxton, and there is a fresh dusting up at Flash.

..before plunging to a new low point for early November.

Interesting blog, thanks.

This concurs with the data from a number of sites in southwest Wales. It passed through the Milford Haven area at around 8pm and marked a change to calmer conditions after winds had been strong for a few hours, rather than a strong peak.

Radar suggest that would appear to be what is happening now over the Irish Sea. I was just going to post about this but you'd already predicted it, nice.

Impressive rainfall totals, not forgetting that also within 3km of Seathwaite is Sprinkling Tarn which holds the annual record of 6527mm. Basically the moisture funnels up the southwest-northeast aligned Wasdale and Eskdale and is forced over the highest England's highest massif including Scafell, and these rain gauge locations are in the direct lee of this. However, without wishing to diminish the impact of the disaster, because of the relatively localised nature and frequency of high precipitation, the area is more capable with dealing with such high levels of runoff than most other areas of the country. Their normal amounts would cause flooding problems in many other areas, whilst this amount would be devastating. Also I suspect that somewhere in the northwest highlands of Scotland may well have been wetter than this on occasion.

Like the pictures, however am slightly surprised that you managed to take them in the urban northwest - living nearby north Cheshire the light pollution is ever present.

It's hypothetical in as much as that it cannot be proven but can be disproven - which of course it hasn't. It is your perception that "they [Meto] represent a body of opinion that is presenting a hypothesis as a fact" The Met are however in line with the vast majority of climate scientists, as substantiated by TWS (albeit with qualification). In terms of science - provide evidence that any credible climatology scientist claims that the theory and predictions equate to facts and I will concede you have a point, else my assertion would appear to be the more accurate depiction. Any so called "body of opinion that is presenting a hypothesis as a fact" may be an artifact of media presentation, GW scaremongerers, public understanding, or just perception but it is not representative of the scientific community.

I provide evidence from a scientific journal which you refute with gut feeling and inference. Of course it is hypothetical but amongst those researching the subject it represents at present an educated best guess.

The Met are not being AGW alarmists, they merely reflect the overwhelming consensus of opinion within the climatology science community. It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes. The challenge, rather, appears to be how to effectively communicate this fact to policy makers and to a public that continues to mistakenly perceive debate among scientists. http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf With specific regards to gardens and plants grown, the speculated rise in temperatures are not going to be a major problem in most cases judging by areas which have such temperature ranges now. There may be a few species which don't perform as well without their required winter chilling periods but this would be more than outnumbered by the number of 'new' species that would grow reliably, as opposed to just about surviving possibly with protection (I've grown so called exotic plants for a few years so have a little insight here). However, the biggest question as I see it is not the temperatures but the water. The temperatures will not be a problem if irrigation is available, but with drier summers coupled with our forecast population explosion means that the gardens probably won't get a look in.

Was going to post almost exactly same - here in north Cheshire, it has been warm, but distinctly cloudy and disappointing in comparison to many other areas. For instance the MetO recorded Woodford as the sunniest station in the northwest yesterday with only 0.9 hours. Today after a fine morning the cloud has built up once again in the afternoon preventing the temperature from matching those in the midlands and southeast. The higher humidity here however is making it feel every bit as warm. Had a few short sharp showers this week, but I haven't noticed any thunder, and have missed the storm you have at the moment.

Interesting double meaning there! Yes, seems to be loads more than usual here in Cheshire too. So much for a cold winter getting rid of pests, it must've only wiped out the predators.

Ok, Heraklion, Crete - right now is reporting 25degC, not too bad, but with 21deg dewpoint, humidity 78% - probably more oppressive than anywhere here at the moment. Then check out somewhere like Samos - 28C, 23C dewpoint. Just as we don't get maximum temperatures as high as the med, neither do we get as high dewpoints and humidity. That the med stays dry for long periods in the summer is down to the prevailing pressure patterns. They don't normally start to see gradual inroads of frontal systems till September and October.

Sorry, just got to knock on the head the misperception that warm weather here is always more humid than in the med, that's rubbish.

Yes, since way back in 2007!

The blizzard was the 8th, sorry off topic.

No exceptional or notable weather here in north Cheshire eg. extreme low temperatures or snowfall. Just persistently cooler than average temperatures with sky high heating bills, bloody marvellous. That sums it up.

Thanks, but this emphasises the point I was making! I was being deliberately naive in the same way that the heavy snowfalls for some areas doesn't necessarily mean an end to the "even larger teapot" as some are suggesting. The significance that people are attaching to it is exactly the same as I did in response. Jeez, I wouldn't have thought it would need this much explanation!

Not my argument which is the point, I'm just using the significance of snowfall that other people have mentioned.

Apart from the inaccuracies showing wall to wall snowfall as already pointed out, probably largely due to resolution, the interesting thing is how meridional the snow is rather than the usual zonal. We have snow at the expense of lack of snow in Germany and Poland, even Belarus and Ukraine, and other parts of eastern Europe. I think this would be quite unusual for a cold spell here at this time of year, maybe more expected in spring.

The information on that link is easily discredited. Water vapour is a feedback of warming i.e. responds to temperature change, whereas CO2 is a forcing factor causing warming. In any case as this thread stems from purely anecdotal evidence then here is some more - here in north Cheshire we've had two proper coverings of snow totalling around 3cm and lasting less than 48 hours. That's less than the long term average and similar to some of the record mild winters so global warming is clearly still in full effect.

Excellent!

It's because they don't like you!

That radar is so inaccurate, the snow is very heavy across Birmingham - Coventry - Rugby, for example.

December 2000. Don't know if it had the classic eye-wall but gave widespread heavy snow.