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which are still playing out.

Was there any need for that? there is sarcasm then there are ignorant grunts.

This winter so far could have been so much worse from an interest point of view if there had been zero potential for cold. Imagine if the charts and backgrounds had not shown any glimmers at all, now that would have been tortuous. Better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all as the saying goes and even tho they've not come to anything yet, some of the charts have been lovely.

jolly good

With the downgrading of the models in recent days can someone please explain the snowmageddon showing up on my netweather 10 dsy forcast? thanks

Catacol correctly asked, why are these people even in this thread? and they will never give you an honest answer. It really says it all when someone comes on a "hunt for cold thread" and says "roll on spring". Fact - the background signals have been/are good regardless of the failed outcomes and going forward it has/will ultimately give us more info how to interpret them. And if it wasn't for those signals we wouldn't have had the thrilling model rollercoaster that this winter is providing. Yep we've had no snow but it's been blooming interesting all the same. Why do people have a problem with that? Everything was pointing to a very cold spell of weather and with the charts that were appearing last week there was no reason to suspect anything else. Even the moderators and senior weather people on here were getting giddy and making boom posts. It was no coincidence that certain people like who Catacol was replying to were nowhere to be seen back end of last week because there was no argument for the mild rampers and anyone who has come out since and said that severe cold was always gonna be a bust is a out and out liar - it looked nailed on but the second that easterly looked to have failed, surprise surprise up pops the usual "told you so" people. I suppose at least they are consistant lol. We're back to chasing day 10, so what? it's a hobby, it's annoying and frustrating but we love it all the same. It hasn't happened yet, it might not this winter but we also might get a few nice surprises along the way so regardless of what anyone says, backgrounds are and will always be key to this game. As soon as those boom charts start appearing again people will jump all over them and good on them that's what i say and if those charts don't appear and we're left clutching at straws for the rest of winter then good on that too, damn site better than just coming on here just to rubbish everything. Cheers

To think all those multi millions spent on models and super computers when they could have just been watching the behaviour patterns of snow geese, the amount of berries on the trees and what someone's mates cousin said down the pub.

Ooh finally showing a snow risk on the Netweather 10 day. Only a small % but i'll take it!

Most of the background signals people have been aluding to have yet to materialise and If severe weather sets in at the end of jan and lasts for several weeks, we could potential be talking about the great winter of 2018/19 in years to come so far too early to be calling it a bust just yet. Wishful thinking i know but i'm still keeping the faith lol

Read 62-63's post earlier this evening, it's a great read and answers everything you have just written, cheers

The only winter records i was recording in 1983 was Paul Young and Slade so you got me there mate.

Lmao Every noteable cold spell in history will have had some sort of potential prior to it. You don't just open the curtains one day and say oh it's snowing i wonder how that happened

Where abouts in sheffield are you coz S10 have had a few decent ground frosts. I know frosts aren't really anything to get excited about but your post deserved some pedantry.

so do the think the 30 dayer will be drastically altered aswell?

Posts now popping up regarding snow showers as early as tuesday when only a couple of hours ago there were bullish posts re. no chance of snow next week, some saying there never was. This is much before day 10 even tho snow is notoriously hard to predict.

My brain hurts. It simply can't comprehend people dealing in absolutes when there is so much uncertainty at present. How can people be so sure the eye candy charts of yesterday won't reappear in the near future?

Their 29th dec update says it could get colder the last week of the month yes but the rest of the update - It also looks a little windier than average in most areas. Temperatures will probably be near normal, perhaps a little bit above normal for central and eastern England and a little cooler than normal for Scotland. The main alternative to this scenario is that the ridge of high pressure will be slower to decline and could linger close to the UK. This would mean that the weather remains drier and less windy in the south, but wetter and windier for the north, particularly Scotland. It would also remain milder than normal too.But before we get to the colder weather, we expect the middle of the month to be unsettled with rainfall at or above average and with the potential for some windy weather too. Temperatures are likely to be near or perhaps a little below normal at this stage. How does the part i highlighted equate to Hammond's risk of severe cold from mid month.

Very different to the above average temps, wind and rain that his old employers the beeb are saying.

How is discussing what the models are showing hopecasting?

Aah the fickle fickle world of the weather enthusiast lol

A new year yet individual run tourettes as rife as ever. Still a case of one minute BOOM and talk of snowmageddon, then the next it's back to GLOOM and talk over winter over again seemingly forgetting everything else that's going on. Astonishing

Amen to that. Such a shame, the interesting insights from the more knowledgeable posters is what drew me this thread but the wind up merchants are really beginning to spoilt it.

Years ago people said global warming was a fad and look where we are now!! besides I think reminding everyone that a SSW doesn't always guarantee cold and snow is far more tedious as even the most novice of us are fully aware of that.

To be fair around mid-month the 30 day outlook repeated said it could turn significantly colder before the end of the year

Any chance of consistancy from the mods re met office musings in this thread? I got pulled up on one reference this morning where as there are dozens this evening?