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Has there been many years when the second half of April has been colder than the first half? It has not actually been a cold month, 2021 was a lot colder.
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CryoraptorA303 It is interesting that although October is a warmer month than April, temperatures of over 20c are much more likely in April. I am not sure why this is? April has bigger extremes of hot and cold, and in October the temperature always seems to be between 12-17c 90% of the time.
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Has the hottest day of any year ever been in May? I think it would be almost impossible, even if the summer is very poor.
I know the warmest day of any year has been in September a few times (including last year).
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CryoraptorA303 Do you think there will be another year when 30 degrees is not reached in the UK? Has been a long time since it last happened, and the chances of it happening will get even lower in future years (unless the AMOC shuts down).
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kold weather The long and extended autumn started at the end of summer 2022, and has continued since then, apart from a 10 day period of cold weather in December 2022, and the 2 very hot months last year (June and September).
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*Stormforce~beka* Would you be happy with cold weather if it came with blue skies?
Apparently SAD is responsible for high suicide levels in Scandinavian countries.
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*Stormforce~beka* When there are above average temperatures in the winter the sky is always grey. Clear skies in the winter always bring cold weather.
At least the evenings are getting lighter now.
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CryoraptorA303 Would 30°C feel warmer in May than it would in September? High temperatures in the Spring usually seem warmer that high temperatures in the Autumn.
Even though 2018 was a very good summer it did not seem all that oppresive compared to the really hot days in 2019 and 2022.
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Summer8906Nothing from the 1960s in your list. I have just had a look at nw3weather.co.uk (a weather station in London), and I can see how bad those summers were. 1965 looks amazingly bad. 1969 is probably the best of a bad bunch.
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It was well before my time but the summer of 1949 seemed like a good one.
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I don't think any of the poor summers from 2007-2012 were as bad as the summers from 1985-1988.
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reefIf the 1973 summer would be much warmer now than it was then, what would the summer of 1976 have been like if it happened in the last 10 years?
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CryoraptorA303 Intersting that you have March 4.5C higher than November, when March is usually the colder month of the two.
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Do you think 35C is possible in May?
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1989 is probably the start of the transition to warmer weather in this country. There have been weeks and months of cold weather since 89, but it seems to be the end of a run of colder than average years going back to 1960 (maybe even before then).
Probably the first warm summer in my lifetime that I can remember. Too young to remember 83 and 84.
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On 22/12/2023 at 14:14, cheeky_monkey said:
yes it is lots of people including myself go walking and running early doors..its painful when the mornings are dark until 9am
As long as you have clear skies and no rain, it is good to be out and about at sunrise. Unfortunately I lack the motivation to get out of bed at that time. I had to start work at 6am for one day last March, so had no choice. It was really good to see the sun rise and the light levels increasing on my walk into work, with hardly any cars on the road, and most people still in bed. The sunset isn't really the same.
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34 minutes ago, CLReeve said:
I'm seriously thinking of emigrating from this miserable, rain-soaked sh*thole of a country. Awful, seasonless weather, lousy quality of life, shabby towns and cities and bland countryside. Hope to get away within a decade or so.
You know you don't have to sit on the fence, you can say what you really think.
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On 20/11/2023 at 13:46, Summer8906 said:
For example I thought that the all-time record, as was, of July 2019 was thoroughly undeserved; if you're going to get an all-time record then it should occur during a protracted hot spell rather than a brief heat spike in a generally changeable period.
What would have been even more undeserved would have been if the record was broken on 31st July 2020, the 3rd hottest day on record at the time. That just came totally out of nowhere, unlike the records of 2019 and 2022 which were predicted a long time in advance.
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On 07/12/2023 at 18:08, summer blizzard said:
That's an impressive slip back to La Nina.
Does going back to La Nina in spring mean 2024 will likely be cooler than this year?
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On 04/09/2023 at 16:34, Tamara said:
The current weather, in terms of temperature, is comfortable and very welcome after weeks of heat & blazing sun. Its very different living permanently here than on holiday and relying on the blue skies & sun sitting in bars & restaurants and on beaches and by pools each day.
Some rain would be welcome, but very happy & grateful to have missed the damaging downpours, floods & hail damage across parts of the Iberian continent this weekend.
The weekend was under the influence of a cut off low & associated upper cold pool creating deep instability across the continents of both Portugal and Spain, triggering some very potent thunderstorms and a few downbursts like this one in the north of Portugal
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Good satellite shots of the cut off low which this week phases with Franklin & helps sustain the heat advection northwards to UK and the rest of NW Europe
Across the border in Spain, historic flooding occurred in Madrid.
Today is 23C cloudy, breezy and again dry IMBY as a band of rain brushes Lisbon and up the Atlantic coast just to my west. These patterns are typically hit & miss. With the sub tropical influence of Franklin taking over in the Atlantic, southerly flow will continue and temperatures edging back up between 28C to 32C and a few more showers around, but not the intensity of this weekend.
Someone mentioned on a another climate forum that it's the same system that is bringing record heat to the UK and France and floods to Spain. A blocked jetstream with floods on either side and heat in the middle.
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14 hours ago, Sunny76 said:
Come down to Greece mate.
We have just been swimming in the sea, and it’s raining on and off. Sea is very warm, but it’s only 22c here.
We were laughing at all the young families who were just staring at the beach afraid to go into the sea. Mostly young families in their 30s, and from places like Poland, Italy and Germany. I thought these people were tough?
Jokes aside, it’s all good. Sun has come back out.
I kind of wish I didn’t miss the hot sunny weather in London, but if it’s a toss up between a beach in Greece or a sweaty central line tube, I know we made the right choice
To be fair, I think you had a better deal this summer, and this week is something that most were missing in July and August. It doesn’t need to be 29-32c, but high summer was missing lots of 23-25c days with sunshine.
Stay cool and stay hydrated
Have you been caught up in the floods? It seems like its really bad. At least one dead and five people missing, maybe swept away by the floodwaters.
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This summer was just the 11th time in the CET record where all the summer months had a mean temperature above 16c, and only the 3rd time since 1900. That does not make it a very good summer but it is still interesting.
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On 31/08/2023 at 19:45, reef said:
1985, 1986 and 1987 are the three coldest years I've got in my records. 1986 was the coldest of all at 8.80C.
A year like that now would be remarkable, especially if you compared it to the 1991-2020 averages:
Jan: 3.3C (-1.4C)
Feb: -0.5C (-5.6C)
Mar: 5.1C (-1.5C)
Apr: 5.8C (-2.9C)
May: 11.5C (0.0C)
Jun: 13.4C (-1.0C)
Jul: 16.1C (-0.6C)
Aug: 13.7C (-3.1C)
Sep: 11.8C (-2.5C)
Oct: 11.0C (0.0C)
Nov: 7.7C (+0.3C)
Dec: 5.9C (+1.0C)The closest year recently for us was 2010 with a mean of 9.18C. I think that's probably the low limit now.
If the AMOC collapses (a very big if), the UK would get colder and years like 1986 would be new the normal.
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4 hours ago, Man With Beard said:
Not sure if the ECM 00Z ensembles were covered at any length, but very solid support for a heatwave in the SE from 4th September to 9th September, with no member showing uppers below 12C during this period and the majority not below 16C.
If this period of heat had arrived even just 10 days ago, it would have led to several days in the 90Fs. We lose the heat potential so quickly between mid August and mid September.
If this period of heat had arrived in mid/late July, could it have led to another chance of 40C being reached again?
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Spring 2024
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B87 Will this be the wettest January - April on record? Could this recent weather have anything to do with the AMOC getting weaker or is there no evidence of that?