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South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
It usually moves east; moving west is less common. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Unfortunately I can see this starting to fizzle out for anything but the extreme tip of Kent as the main front seems to be moving erratically SE - away from us. Rain and sleet continue over much of the SE area, but snow confined to the higher parts of Thanet. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
I lived in Ashtead from October 1981 to 1986. I recall the 1981/2 winter there fondly. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Epsom, though, is north of the Downs, so south-west of the Downs (e.g. me) may be a little different. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
On 24 January here near Dorking the A25 was gritted the night (Saturday) before and there was a sharp frost. Snow started at about 0900 and was 12cm deep by 1115. The road was covered as if it hadn't been gritted at all. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Not necessarily. With a near-stationary front it can be surprising what a difference can be seen in a few miles. I recall travelling home from work to Epsom on the train in January 1987 and the snow depth at Worcester Park was around 6cm, whereas at the next station, Stoneleigh, it was easily 18cm! The snow at WP had been steady but light to moderate all day, whereas a tad closer to the front at Stoneleigh it had been heavy all day. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
That certainly is a factor, but a dew point of, say, -1C while the air temperature is say, 4C, will probably not produce snow. Both temperatures are equally important. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
It does seem as if this cold spell may end with a whimper rather than a bang, with temperatures gradually rising, rather than a dramatic, frontal change. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
That IS rare; they more often come from the grey! -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
That would surely be cold anyway. Perhaps Kentish roulette? -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
No, I was wondering about the Met Office measurements' accuracy. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
I really wish they would stop saying "temperatures will struggle" - no they won't; they are not living entities, they are simply measurements and cannot try to do anything. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Interesting - the Met Office latest shows temperatures have been rising all day in Kent and are 'now' (1400) at 8C generally. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
As the air over SE England in the colder sector is forecast to be around 0C to -1C, how much warmer can it be in the milder area yet still produce snow? Not much, I would suggest. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Can anyone? Certainty is the factor that can only come during the event. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
The BBC's take on the snowy weather in an item specifically about what they are, depressingly predictably, calling 'The Beast From The East Two' - just bung in a picture of fog; that'll do! -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
The lockdown probably increases the heat island as more people are at home (apart from the city centre itself) and are therefore using more heating. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
The Dutch have always been proud of the availibility of their white powder! -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Yes - "once the ground temp. hits zero" - exactly my point. It's warm at present (up to 10C) so may take some time to reach that point, rather than every single flake settling from the outset when the ground surface was at -6C as was the case on 24 January. The fact is that the ground can be, and often is, too wet for settling - the key is how quickly it cools to the required point. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
No, I wouldn't drive unless vital in a yellow warning and I wouldn't drive at all in an Amber warning. A Red means I would simply continue not to drive at all. I have always associated Reds with the immediate and unavoidable danger caused by destructive flooding leading to, for example, the need to evacuate. Blocked roads and communities cut off are already covered by Amber. That was my point. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Hope they're not "steaming" or they won't last long! -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Yes, but that's not dependent on the heaviness of the snow - the wind chill will be there even if bone dry. People seem to be expecting/hoping for heavier snow to lead to a red warning in itself. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
Thanks. It just looks odd to go from, effectively, a certainty of snow to an impossibility, back to certainty and then impossible again. The other extreme, of course, is BBC/Meteo which goes to into ridiculous details 17%, 18%, 15%, 20%, 23%, etc. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
The snow we had here in Surrey on 24 January fell onto frosty ground (-6C grass temp.), whereas this would fall onto wet, warm ground. That makes a huge difference. Freezing air above takes time to cool off ground that has been at 10C+ recently. -
South East and East Anglia Weather Discussion February 2021 onwards
Ian Docwra replied to Blessed Weather's topic in Regional
'Red' surely means a danger to life - is it REALLY likely to become that in the small area of EA and Kent affected by the heavier snow? I can't see it. The dangers of very heavy snow are totally different to those from rain (destructive flooding, etc). 'Amber' already covers the issues of being cut off, roads blocked, etc. A 'red' snow warning must surely be things like roofs collapsing for there to be a danger to life.