In Absence of True Seasons

Sun Chaser Exactly the same situation happend in 2023. Cloudy and cool East with warmer and clearer West. Very interesting that it's playing out *again* the following year, like clockwork....

It's genuinely cold now. 11c but feels like 8c according to my phone forecast. More benefit in wearing my winter coat now in the second half of April, than there was for most of winter. Not ideal, as it's now the time to be looking for sun and warmth, but also not surprising for UK. The weather likes to troll us. It's basically an eternal test of mental resilience to live in this climate.

Scorcher I'd be expecting it to be at least somewhat pleasant...next week is the end of April! Sun strength by then is equivalent to in August. Really subdued temps though. Barely scraping mid-teens, and some days barely scraping into double digits. Very subdued for my area for late April. I imagine it's more normal for Manchester to see lots of 11, 12, 13c etc days in late April but in London I'd be expecting to see upper teen day maxes and even the odd 20c day by May.

Alderc 2.0 Very similar set up to last year, looks like. It's a shame, but you basically have an entire summer of near guaranteed warm, sunny weather awaiting you! The rest of us will be stuck with whatever manifests in the British summer-time lol.

My sentiments exactly. It's a real worry. 12/13/14c for the rest of April, and for SE England no less! Something not quite right indeed. Realistically, if Spring drags it's feet to warm up, it's usually late May / early June that you need to wait until for anything properly warm and sunny to arrive. Then if you get a bad July like 2023 or 2021, that's the "centre" of summer ruined. Augusts tend to be cloudy and stormier these days, so then it's only September that can bring a slight reprieve which by that point feels like a slight kick in the teeth given the shorter days and lower sun strength. My point is...if we have a poor Spring for sun and warmth, we effectively are left with just a 3-month or so window of time for warm, sunny weather. 3 months...out of 12. That's it.

Wouldn't be surprised at all. Nothing warm and sunny on the horizon heading into May. So it'll be the classic case of "maybe we'll see a pattern change next month" which never arrives. My genuine, deep seated fear, is that 2024 is basically going to be very similar 2023 *minus* the warm, sunny, and dry spell from late May until late June. Thus far, 2024 has already panned out as the same as 2023, but worse. Just a wetter and duller version.

Some really quite chilly lows showing over the next week and beyond. 4c and 5c on many days. With only 12c or so the high. Very subdued temps for the second half of April in London. I would be expecting to see mid to upper teen temps fairly readily and a couple more 18-20c+ days, by May. Doesn't look like that'll be the case. Not impressed by this. Was milder in December for god's sake. Only upside is that it's drier than it was previously. Note - drier. Still wet, just not as wet. Small mercies.

Groundhog day. Saturday has literally been the only day in my area this entire year that's delivered anything solidly warm, dry and sunny.

Definitely. It is a bit petty, but it's exactly how I felt about the warm, sunny weather in October (and to a degree, September) last year. I'd have much, much preferred that in July and August.

Nope! Still raining, more showers been added to forecast for tomorrow now also. Honestly about as much point in looking at the Met Office predictions in advance, as using a chocolate teapot to pour yourself a cuppa.

P!$$ing down with rain again, despite not being on the forecast (literally showing sun with a cloud right now!). Just no end to this dire, repeating, relentless unsettled pattern. We get 24-48 (at most) hours of something more sunny and settled and then back into BAU of cloud, wet and windy. I was going to pop to Portugal for a few days this week but I've now got an interview on Thursday which has scuppered my plans for that

SunnyG Undoubtedly. This week is already being downgraded from what it was. A couple of days back, it was showing every day this week as dry and mostly sunny in my area, other than yesterday. Now today is likely to be seeing showers later on, and tomorrow also. Now Thursday and Friday look to be the only dry, semi-sunny days but - if we go by the same rule - they'll probably be downgraded by the time we arrive.

Sun Chaser Impressive stat for 2024 (for all the wrong reasons obviously, but impressive nonetheless). Lets bear in mind also, that very low sunshine hours figure has been compounded with well-above average rainfall. A tale of two woes. Anyway, I'm at the point now where there's not really much that 2024 can do weather-wise to redeem itself into a "great year on the whole. If we have a warm, dry and sunny late Spring and summer, then it'll be a passable year. But it won't erase the god-awful winter and early Spring. Because the reality is, we've had a quarter of the year more-or-less resigned to dross already. It's time that we aren't getting back, regardless of what happens in upcoming seasons.

SunSean Hah. Seville's heat is notorious. I've been twice and both times it was a proper furnace. The first time - About 34/35c in September 2019. Second time - pushing 50c during the August 2021 Spain heatwave. Dry heat for both times for me though...roasting, but not particularly sweaty. Cloud is a rarity there.

No need to be careful about desiring a good few weeks of properly dry weather! The ground is a sponge.

SunSean Not even a wisp of grey! You're currently missing out on intermittent hailstones in Essex, joyous.

Andrea it sprung for 24 hours on Saturday

MP-R Hailstones here

MP-R Today is dire. Probably just about the worse conditions possible for mid April, imo. Heavy winds, pelting rain, and barely double digits. Thankfully only a one day affair, rest of the week looks a lot better.

marky810 It's done for many places across the country. I drove up North with a friend last weekend and most of the countryside we went through, was properly flooded. There were huge ponds and pools in fields that shouldn't exist. You could've kayaked on them, such were some of their size. Even with the few days of drier weather at a time that we are now shifting towards seeing, a single afternoon or morning of rain brings us back to being sodden again and undoes all the drying that's been achieved. We legitimately need weeks without any rain whatsoever to sort things out, which just isn't going to happen, because we live in the UK.

MP-R It did have this though (in London, at least). Aprils from 2015 to 2020 saw some real warm spells, and they often fell on weekends too. Lucky indeed.

CryoraptorA303 Some house are definitely poorly insulated. Overall though, some people just have completely different tolerances / perceptions to temperature. There are people on this forum for whom 20c is "too hot" and "uncomfortable" whereas to me, and many others, 20c is basically just the beginning of anything properly warm, a world away from hot.

stainesbloke definitely subdued! Although much if central Europe just had a very good spell of warm sunny weather well into the 20c's. Swings and roundabouts.

Azazel Yeah it's pretty dry which is good, but it's rather poor to not be seeing a single day over 15c for the foreseeable. It's just 13/14c and "partly" sunny. Very meh. We had a run of April's with properly warm spells in the mid to late 2010s, and then obviously we had April 2020 which was something else entirely...since then though, they've been very uninspired.

stainesbloke Is that the weather in Czechia that you mean? Not looking *too* bad in London. 14/15c with sun and cloud, no rain other than some showers tomorrow