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For me its warm-hot. Not sweltering and a lovely temp for more relaxed activities like walking, lounging around, swimming in a pool but I wouldn't want to do anything strenuous in it like running or hard outdoor work. In terms of indoor temps its on the uncomfortable side, I dont want to be sleeping or doing office work ion that temp I far prefer my indoor temps upper teens or low twenties.
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3 minutes ago, Addicks Fan 1981 said:
Last year's summer @NEVES SCREAMERwas exceptional for england and wales, if not the whole of the UK. What we are enduring is traditional english summer fayre which isn't very really.
Id say this July has been more typical fare for Western Norway or coastal Alaska. Both this July and last years July are extremes.
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For my nightmare bogeyman year post 2010
Jan=2014
Feb=2020
Mar=2023
Apr= 2012
May= 2021
Jun= 2012
Jul= 2012 (2015 is another contender though)
Aug= 2017 (Having trouble thinking of truly dire Augusts from memory but I'm sure there's been some that slip from my memory)
Sept= 2017 (Again not many dire ones I can recall)
Oct= 2019
Nov= 2019
Dec= 2015
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2 minutes ago, Sunny76 said:
In a post 1987 climate, anything is possible.
What happened in 1987? Seems something specific happened that year
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Normally I am not one to moan but I just wish this weather would get lost.No this is the U.K. not Iceland. I bet Halloween and Christmas will both be under a big stinking Euro ridge with far fetch southerlies all the way from tropical Africa and U.K. gets 27c on Halloween and 20c on Christmas.
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It’s strange I’ve noticed that cyclonic and wet Septembers are pretty rare I wonder why that could be. Maybe the lower contrast in sea temps across the NH suppressing the jet stream?
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GFS 18z has the trough moving NW to Scandinavia next week and higher pressure building torwards the UK with a NWly flow.I would guess this would mean average highs in the day and cooler than average nights and a fair bit drier than now although I am new to this . The trough does dip south a little torwards Scotland later on then the Azores ridges in bringing SWly but both are in FI.
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My unscientific and unfounded predictions for August is that it will be pretty average and mostly westerly with both NWly and SWly spells but less cyclonic/troughy than now. A sunnier and drier version of 2020 I am feeling but I am just a man not a Met/NWS/Metro supercomputer :P.
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What would you folks define as NW Europe? For me I would say UK,Ireland, France north of Orleans, Benelux, Iceland and western Norway. Maybe Germany as well north and west of say Dusseldorf.
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As someone who likes comparing months between years this July reminds me of 2015 and 2020 mostly so far. Not much excitement or warmth but not quite a nightmarish 2012 summer ether. I’m also reminded a lil of the 2nd half of Jul 2017 and oddly August 2021
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As a newbie chart reader I shall offer my analysis for the GFS 12z he he he :P. I see a cut-off low on the weekend which looks windy and wet then on Sunday/Monday it moves north torwards western Norway leaving the UK in a more westerly flow. I would guess some more settled weather for the south especially it seems far north could stay unsettled ,I don't see heatwaves happening but should have some decent days. I also see the Greenland high going away which means less blocking. Some Azores influence in FI but I don't tend to bank on anything beyond 240 h myself.
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Basically what months/seasons come to mind for very poor weather and makes folks quake in fear when said months are mentioned? Going by memory and what ive seen others say around forum.
Summer 2012 (Esp Jun and July, August was pretty good that year at least for my area)
December 2015
April 2012
August 1986
Summer 2021 (For the south at least)
The 6 month period from Oct 19-March 20
Summer 2007
March 2023
May 2021
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I know an off topic question but climatically what would you folks define as the south. Climate wise I’d say south of Birmingham. When weather forecasts say something like drier/wetter in the south today that’s what I tend to think.
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Despite the dreadful synoptics lately this July it hasn't been a 2012 style washout so far for my area at least. If I had to compare this month so far it has shades of 2011 and 2017 (going by memory). There's only really been one truly awful day earlier this week and even then it did brighten up giving about a hour of sun in the evening. On a personal level I can enjoy cyclonic summer weather provided it offers exciting thunderstorms and downpours and with warm sunny days between unsettled days.
Likewise anticyclonic weather can be miserable if its in the wrong place. August 2021 is a good example I recall a high in the North Sea bringing chilly NE winds and endless North Sea cloud. Give me a warm southerly cyclonic pattern with varied weather over that- 2
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As someone who has a strong interest in climates worldwide not just the UKs Melbourne seems to have cool summer day spells for its latitude, low elevation and being on a large landmass (I know they can also get 40s during northerly spells). Most climates at 38 degrees from the equator wouldn't reach mid teens in the summer even in cooler spells unless at a high elevation. Id guess the only other non high elevation climate at 38 degrees from the equator to sometimes get mid teen highs would be coastal Northern California and maybe some small islands in the middle of oceans.
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Feels like a Reykjavik July or a normal mid October day here today. Current model charts would have been great in January cyclonic northwesterlies would mean a snow fest for here at least.
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Cooler than I expected the coming days considering the SWly winds and warmer than average sea temps.Given the UKs wonky climate I half expect Christmas to be 21/12 with a southerly all the way from equatorial Africa. (This kinda happened to Europe in the New Year if I recall rightly).
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I hope that big green blob ether stays north of the UK or if it does go to the UK sticks around only for a day or two then buggers off to Europe/the North Sea. I don't mind some wetter days myself and anywhere in Atlantic Europe north of say 45-46N will have some unsettled spells most summers but I don't fancy a trough/cut off low getting stuck over the UK for a week or two.
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Despite some of the poor synoptics the models have been showing the forecast for my area doesn't look terrible. Some showery outbursts forecast (Which never tend to come to pass anyways at least lately) but partly sunny/white cloud and low 20s for my area mostly.
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Going for 17.2C and 60mm
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1 minute ago, LetItSnow! said:
Interesting how we’ve seemed to get sunnier but wetter - A you wouldn’t think would make much sense.
If I had to guess I would say likely ether more convective over frontal rain or more mobile weather systems with more heat about meaning rain comes in heavier but hangs around less.
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I am wondering in NW/SE split set ups how does the SW and NE tend to fare? I guess South Wales counts as SW so ill give how it tends to run out for here. If the split is stable we tend to join ether one or end up in a battleground between the two set ups. Like say NW has 7 days of rain and SE 7 days of sun often we end up with 3/4 days of rain and 3/4 days of sun.
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Weather here was mixed. It poured down with rain until about 2pm then the sun came out about 5pm. Tomorrow looks pretty good weather-wise for here forecast of 18 degrees and sunny. Rest of the week looks mixed with sunny showers and mid teens though.
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Fed up of constant rain, gloom and cold this spring. I know this place doesn't have the best climate but southern UK isn't Reykjavík,Bergen or Ketchikan Alaska (All climates most folks here would deem awful to live in and are basically stereotypical British climates). Go take a hike Atlantic lows.
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Summer 2023 chat
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Oddly today is a better weather day than yesterday despite the fact that I am basically sitting right on top of a huge deep low at this very moment. Still not great but at least there's some sunny spells and its not pouring with rain all day. Maybe lows are like hurricanes where the very middle is the calmest? (Hurricanes are just beefed up lows at the end of the day)