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Hi Crimsone, If you have taken my comments personally then I apologise in public to you. The case that I was making is that we (including me!) should all try to critically examine our views. One trap that we can all fall into is in relying on potential correlations between two or more pieces of data. My understanding is that you believed that there is a correlation between population growth and temperature increase. I only asked you to explain your view with historic data so that we can all debate this particular issue by seeing if there is a correlation. I don't do point scoring. SR

If overpopulation is a contributory cause to AGW, then please explain the periods of global warmth since 3000BC. It would be great to see a graph of population with temperature to illustrate your point.

It is clear that the real motives of some of the AGW believers is in mass genocide. See http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april...nofgenocide.htm As an aside, imho overpopulation is not the problem. However, there is a serious problem with access to land and community currency with which to exchange goods and labour in the global south.

Here's my contribution in favour of solar activity being the explanation or the main explanation for the current global warming. An article by THEODOR LANDSCHEIDT on the solar cycle with an interesting correlation of activity coinciding with sacred numbers (i.e fibonacci number sequence). http://bourabai.narod.ru/landscheidt/consider.htm An article by DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV on Solar Warming but with an emphasis on magnetics. http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html

sleeting here and melting the snow

thank you!

Meteox and the Met Office show a pulse of very heavy snow/rain heading along N France

Managed to wake up at the third attempt of dreaming to wake up Snowing in N London. It's windy too, so I'm going to have to soon dig myself out of a 3 inch snow drift

Expecting some ridging from the NW giving transient northerlies. Slightly more southerly jet. Please snow on 13th My guess is 4.5c

5cm snow fell, now almost gone.

What about DGW? Deliberate global warming. There's plenty of gas/oil around the Arctic Circle............ :lol:

very wet and very wild

phew 27th :lol:

Wet n wild in N London

North London is now cloudy with gusty winds. Very dark looking NW.

These continual South Westerly's have mucked up my Sept to Nov CET forecasts. Have to assume "The trend is your friend" and will assume more of the same, therefore 6c with after Christmas.

25 April 1981 blizzards in the north and central parts of UK 18 April 1983 was a wet snow event in London. The day before was a warm day!

I remember walking :o to college during this time. Minus 5c during the day, quite a windchill too and lots of convective snow snowers :o Oh those were t'days

FWIW I had a dream last night of wet snow in November with strong NE winds, woke up in a cold sweat 101206 - Aberdeen – 3 311206 - London – 1 - hope over experience! 100107 - Peterborough – 2 230107 - Edinburgh – 4 260107 - Carlisle – 3 040207 - Ayr - 3 040207 - Dundee – 2 040307 - Ipswich - 2

Extra Virgin Olive Oil is the best, preferably Organic.

I remember quite a lot of wet snow events in the mid/lateish 70's. The real fun began at the end of 1978!

just saw the dark blue cloud go by my north

Re 1987 My parents come back home from an evening out around 11.30pm and said it was very windy Woken up by the noise around 3am, saw large tree almost bent downwards in the SSW severe gales. Still quite vivid. Woke up to a garden in a mess with many side fences blown down. The Jan 1990 day time severe gales were also memorable especially the warnings in London of falling scaffolding, masonry and trees.

The thundersnow event

With thanks to BFTP Spot the difference!