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How large is the system moving in from France?
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Hi, Herne Bay (extreme east coast) has light snow when is the main part of the front expected. Met O give heavy snowfall for us here - Is that still the case? How long is it anticipated to last before we lose it to say Norfolk areas, NE etc?
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If you value your health, then stay out of the MO discussion thread. up, down - up downnnn then upppp
SHIVERING
Deffo...it's manic in there and the mods must be working like robots to filter through the emotional replies.....Wouldn't envy them!
Having trouble accessing Wetterzentralle - I reckon it's the NW gang! lol!
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Using that same argument Simon, if the other 2 being 2 of the big 3 show the opposite then who is right?
The facts (not verified by myself sorry) are that the verification stats ie the models that have consistantly been correct with their forecasts of the big 3 are 1) ECM, 2) UKMO and 3) GFS so at the moment odds are against the GFS being correct.
That said however I have been here many times where 1 has gone against the other 2 and in the end was proven correct, usually though it's the other way round.
JAYCES
Absolutely right. That said I have just had another look and at around 160 hrs it DOES slide into line with an easterly! It seems to be taking it's time getting to grips with the synoptics and having said that, it is notoriously bad at showing easterlies! Nice to add at this stage, that the ECM and UKMO are STILL going strong for the easterly! As THEIR 12z is now rolling out..... Which is FANTASTIC news! I would expect to see GFS gaining its confidence for the pub run....A large brandy for the GFS please Barman lol!
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The GFS continues to be obstinate. I have waited all day for this run (12z) to come in line with other models - STILL it says NO. How frustrating....Everyone on the model discussion forum is going crazy. The trouble is being one of the big three you CANNOT discount it. If it repeats its message on the next run, it might well be followed by the other models and then it's an extended waiting game again....
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Just as i thought the cold been put back well to the east againe same old story just not going are way.
Where are you getting that from? GFS? This does vary its output considerably, but the trend is still there and in evidence on all the main models. GFS is still wobbly but I expect it to see it upgrade for the 06z...fingers crossed !
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Maybe it was always going to be there and the models were just getting a handle on it? Certainly seeing trends here and there that are encouraging without being specific about timing. Remember, we don't lose the chances of snow just because humans say the season of Winter is finished by a certain date, we have had some great falls in March and April.
Very wise words! Just been reading "The wrong kind of snow" which has snippets of weather related incidents along with dates in the year and there are a number of reports of heavy snowfall even in southern areas of England into the mid-late March period and during different years - both in times past and in more recent times.
Disappointing? Yes, after all three main model players came to an agreement and a solid looking one at that only recently - Only to have our hopes dashed (for the time being at least) with the 0z GFS run which looks rubbish. I find although we can get out and about this mild in-betweeny type weather - BORING!
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What a Borefest.....GFS looks extremely uninteresting....I have a feeling looking at the other models that that is that....If you are looking for cold and snow until at least the beginning of feb....That euro high is an absolute pain in the a**e it will not shift anywhere far it's like an unwelcome relative outstaying their welcome - WELL OUTSTAYED....
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You mean "A butterfly flaps its wings in...". I'm not so sure; the bigger picture sometimes muddies the waters. Let the bigger picture sort itself out and the hints will then show up in FI within the North Atlantic framework. I am not going to worry about variables in the Pacific & whether they may or may not eventually influence our weather.
The changes have been mentioned for several weeks now. First it was a SSW & nothing came of that. Then it was stratospheric warming; way into FI this has had no effect on Europe (will do in Feb..?). Now it is the PV splitting; GFS has this, late in FI, but as I have been warned many times before, this is FI! It also looks to separate in the wrong place, and for how long (as forecasts for NAO start heading positive again late in FI)?
I actually am very hopeful of a cold Feb (second week onwards probably){*1}, but am not buying this much published forecast change for mid-Jan. Have not for weeks. Now the GFS op is trending towards average, this is even less likely. However if it does materialize, I congratulate you in advance.
A Happy (Wintry) New Year to all.
{*1}Next wave of Strat Warming on top of current warming should do the trick for us.
Having looked at the GFS it is like a stuck record ... Frustratingly so.... Hopefully something's gonna budge soon - It is almost wishing for the atlantic to help break the pattern but it is heights in other areas that will bring about that change so desperately needed - bias is difficult to avoid since now we are in WINTER, I would hope that the high would move westwards! (and stay there) but instead it is persistent. Annoying that were it summer, we would indeed have a better chance at something warm and sunny, with a few showers to water the young plants. lol!
Happy NEw Year to all NW members, mods, etc. Simon L (Snowfish)
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The GFS shows an almighty storm for Friday 16th which looks at first to affect the northern half of the country and then the whole of the UK! It is quite amazing the central core (excuse lack of met term) looks intense and the 528 dam line is south of the UK - driving rain/ hard sleet look likely - nasty conditions in fact. Looking colder in outlook. No blocking by the looks of it - as yet. ECM looks very similar which is also interesting....I should imagine there will be further structural damage for those areas already hit - which isn't great....
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Not sure about that, IF this suggested ridge develops as nicely as some evolutions suggest is possible for later next week, that could feel pretty mellow and fruitful for a fair few of us!
To use a non meteorological term, we're overdue another spell of proper High Pressure dominated conditions. Owed it even!
I think the same.....Hopefully we are due and odds in favour of a more high pressure dominated scene from mid-month onwards - the signs are certainly there! Would be ironic if azores high were to set up camp across our fair land now...lol!
London & South East Regional Discussion 20/01/13 18z -------->
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There is some confusion between the General BBC weather forecast and the local one. The General says later this morning and late afternoon some snow for our region. Tuesday shows nothing at all on the regional forecast and yet general one says yes to snow?! Any comments?