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  1. 7 minutes ago, Singularity said:

    Was about to hit 32°C when that cloud moved in here. Interestingly, there was a jump of just over 1°C in the space of 20 minutes ahead of that cloud.

    If that's the maximum - and it probably is - then that's 2°C above yesterday's model consensus, which was strong even when comparing the global models with the high-resolution ones.

    The 06z ARPEGE of today upped its prediction 32°C, so a successful adjustment there. Interestingly, this is with it making less of this area of cloud than the reality is proving to be. ECM also adjusted upward for its 00z, but was still a degree short.

    Tomorrow, ARPEGE predicts the same maximum but with hardly any cloud interfering - just a bit of high cloud at times - and a NE wind. I think there's scope for the max to climb a degree or two higher if it does stay that clear. After all, ECM predicts 32°C, a degree up on what it had for today.

    For Sunday, ARPEGE drops down a degree but ECM again predicts 32°C.
     

    On top of all these model figures, today was unexpectedly handicapped by temps dropping to the low teens last night. A shallow inversion that the models totally overlooked! I'd be even more surprised to see the same happen tonight, as the broad scale flow looks stronger.

    Overall, I sense that for the far south of England from Dorset eastward, today is just the taster and the weekend will be the main course that ups the ante slightly.

    Was comparing the models this morning as well and came to the rough same conclusions for my area too. Appears both the ARPEGE and ECM were pretty spot on for here at 32°C (Just had a high of 31.9°C), again the cloud is now moving in and the temperature is rising. 

    I am not looking forward to this weekend, NE'ly winds always brings the highest temperatures here locally, so expecting at least a 35°C appearing, especially on Sunday.

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  2. 3 minutes ago, Paul Sherman said:

    Hmm now that IS Interesting, never really thought about the barometric pressure these things were moving into etc. A bit like the rule of thumb for a North Easterly flow in the winter across the North Sea and our snow machine, in the 1987 and 1991 and 2010 winters pressure was always a certain level for deep convection but stray higher or lower then things never seemed to click. I wonder if we just got lucky with everything setting up perfect for the Plume, the pressure and engaging troughs in those days and nothing more.

    Anyone doing a Met Degree this would be an interesting dissitation for you. If I ever lived again and went to OU Met school I would be doing an interesting one on the increase of Smooth Channel Lightning around or just before Violent EF3 Tornado Occurences

    Yeah could still be a driving force for why imports struggle to move across the channel. Last documented time I can recall with a MCS moving across the Channel successfully locally was May 2011, hours of storm activity that reminded me of the 90s/00s. Recent events here have developed just offshore or over the South Downs.

    I did think of doing it as my dissertation, however I decided to concentrate on the changing climate in Southern England during the winter months! But yeah, anyone currently doing Meteorology or Geography, I would suggest this to be a good topic!

  3. 22 minutes ago, TomSE12 said:

    Totally agree with your comments Paul.

    Over the last few Decades, Plumes seem to have been associated with a Steering Flow, from SSW > NNE.

    Whereas, back in the 60's/70's, the Steering Flow of these Thundery breakdowns seemed to be more S > N.

    With this in mind, I started to "employ" what I call the Cherbourg Peninsula test.

    I will Post up an image of the Cherbourg Peninsula/South Coast, to illustrate my point. 

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    If electrical activity initiates East of the Peninsula, the areas primarily affected will be East Sussex/East Kent, with a Steering Flow from SSW > NNE . This is basically what happened again, around Dawn this Morning.

    The infamous "Kent Clipper", more or less bared its teeth again, and the Capital remained unaffected.

    This "Cherbourg Peninsula Test" has worked so many times, over the last few Years.

    Regards,

    Tom. :hi:

    Have noticed this too. Having lived on the South Coast all my life and remember the late 90s and 00s huge overnight thunderstorms from France, I can only dream of this now.

    Electrical activity from France appears to always hug the Northern Coast, steering NNE/NE. The precipitation however continues on its northern route, leaving the cell behind or fizzling out. 

    As part of my degree, I did look into this and found no obvious correlation. Sea temperatures were my first though, but nothing found. Second was the general setups of heat plumes or Spanish plumes compared to the 80s- and 90s, looking at CAPE and velocity as well and again, no huge difference was noted. 

    One area that was interesting was Northern Blocking having an influence, as in previous summers, pressure has been much higher over Scandinavia and subtling changing plume events across Southern England. I had more luck comparing them but even then, didn't find a correlation.

    I think the Met and others could take a look at this, to help shed some light on it.

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  4. 3 minutes ago, Rapodo said:

    Looking at the rain intensity that is showing to hit Bournemouth area in 45 mins surely activity will pick as it approaches land again?

    Previous events (July 2019, June 2018 and June 2014) produced localised cells to fire right along the coast as the main area approached. Outflows and local conditions help massively. East of the IOW, South Downs and Salisbury plain are on my watch at the moment.

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