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32 minutes ago, Uncertainty said:Are you in then, for one last ride, for old times sake?
A definite yes from me. It's been yet another winter of massive letdowns, as they always seem to be these days, but a late February cold spell can still pack a punch. There's some tentative uniformity between the ECM day 10 and GFS day 11, with rising heights up towards Greenland helping a pretty potent Scandi trough over in the days that follow
Confidence levels are of course extremely low at this range, but if the models are showing it, it's worth discussing. For those that threw the towel in, you'll need to sit this one out!
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5 minutes ago, Lukesluckybunch said:
But you can't deny that ecm,is not as good even as last night
That's a different point Luke. I was just challenging your statement 'well played the GFS', as its been just as inconsistent as the others, albeit it hasn't 'yet' shown the same solution as the Euro's.
5 minutes ago, ANYWEATHER said:It is still the leader. The verification stats show the ECM first, UKMO second. Of course, the GFS, ICON, and GEM have the occasional victory, but overall, the Euro's still lead the way, but are not infallible.
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Lukesluckybunch Can't agree with you at all. For example this mornings GFS 0z for 132 hrs
Yesterday's 0z for the same time
To suggest the GFS has, in some way, trumped the other models is incorrect. It verifies behind the ECM and UKMO (and now the GEM) for good reason.
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240 - not quite, but this won't be the final outcome
The fact that the UK and ECM are in almost perfect unison at 168 is a major plus. Exciting days ahead
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Could we see a cross-polar flow on the 216? Doubtful, but whatever there's big changes afoot
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ECM and UK at 168 are very much on the same page with the split vortex
Where's it going from here then?
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8 minutes ago, bluearmy said:
the eps at day 12 show plenty of very disrupted and split vortex’s
but few have rolled a double six as yet
Indeed Blue, I'd prefer the double 6's to come in the semi-reliable rather than day 10+. But given the state of the PV, hitting the jackpot is not an impossible task!
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Crikey, sounds like a few people need a hug in here! If it's really that bad for you, shut the laptop/App and come back in a few days!!! Anyway, whilst the ECM ensembles are throwing out some decent options around days 10-12, I'm not yet ready to throw the towel in.
ECM Control at Day 11
The mean also showing more PV across to the Siberian side vs its earlier run
There's no denying that it's a long-shot, but with 3 weeks of Feb to go (plus I'll give it the first week of March), I'm not yet ready to wave the white flag.
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Rain All Night Great post RAN. Well, here's the ECM ensemble mean at 300, another step forward I'd say
The ECM Control for the same time
There are so many options on the table now, it's somewhat mind-boggling! We'll need A LOT of patience over this next chase, if that's what it turns out to be!?
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ECM at 192, a continuation of this afternoons theme
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The GEM at day 10 is close to very good
The GFS at the same time, whilst not as good, is a huge improvement vs this morning's dross
Upgrades from here will liven us all up again. That said, there's a high probability that the models are overreacting again.
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2 minutes ago, Lukesluckybunch said:
The ukmo 168 could be quite something!
I suspect it will be very close to this from the GFS
Lack of deep cold to the east, but it's an improvement if nothing else!
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Model Output Discussion - Spring Has Sprung
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Interesting early changes on the 6z with the jet digging a bit further south, leaving us with this at day 9
Based on this run, our Irish contingent will be raising an eyebrow at 198hrs
The days that follow show some snow for most areas around the UK.
With the jet going south, were now very much in slider territory at day 10, with heights looking to build over Greenland.
I'm enjoying the model consistency, if nothing else. It's a very long way off, but it's a start.