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  • Location: Tamworth
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frost, fog and ice!
  • Location: Tamworth
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Hi guys this is my first post. I am a lover of the cold weather and hope we have a cold winter. However with 18C forcasted on Thursday I just wondered what the record November temp is?

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SP1986

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
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Hi guys this is my first post. I am a lover of the cold weather and hope we have a cold winter. However with 18C forcasted on Thursday I just wondered what the record November temp is?

I know its in the 21C bracket I think 21.7C although i might be corrected there

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  • Location: Tamworth
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frost, fog and ice!
  • Location: Tamworth
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I know its in the 21C bracket I think 21.7C although i might be corrected there

Thanks for that. Anybody know what year that was in?

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
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From http://www.torro.org.uk/

NOVEMBER

21.7°C 71°F Prestatyn (Clwyd) 4 Nov 1946

21.1°C 70°F Cambridge 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Chelmsford (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Mildenhall (Suffolk) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Clacton (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F London; Tottenham 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Halstead (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

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  • Location: Tamworth
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frost, fog and ice!
  • Location: Tamworth
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From http://www.torro.org.uk/

NOVEMBER

21.7°C 71°F Prestatyn (Clwyd) 4 Nov 1946

21.1°C 70°F Cambridge 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Chelmsford (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Mildenhall (Suffolk) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Clacton (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F London; Tottenham 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Halstead (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

Great stuff. So no danger of that record being broken then :)

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
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From http://www.torro.org.uk/

NOVEMBER

21.7°C 71°F Prestatyn (Clwyd) 4 Nov 1946

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21.1°C 70°F Cambridge 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Chelmsford (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Mildenhall (Suffolk) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Clacton (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F London; Tottenham 5 Nov 1938

21.1°C 70°F Halstead (Essex) 5 Nov 1938

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ps Welcome to posting on nw Potent Gust :)

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  • Location: Tamworth
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frost, fog and ice!
  • Location: Tamworth
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ps Welcome to posting on nw Potent Gust :)

Just goes to show even over sixty years ago we could get freak warm weather!

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Polar Continental Seasoned

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  • Location: South Derbyshire nr. Burton on Trent, Midlands, UK: alt 262 feet
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme winter cold,heavy bowing snow,freezing fog.Summer 2012
  • Location: South Derbyshire nr. Burton on Trent, Midlands, UK: alt 262 feet
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Interesting to see November 1946 up there with the record at 21.7c. Little did they know what would follow later that winter! :)

Paul

ps welcome to the Forum PG

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  • Location: SE London
  • Location: SE London
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Interesting to see November 1946 up there with the record at 21.7c. Little did they know what would follow later that winter! :lol: Paul ps welcome to the Forum PG
yes its quite suprising that the temps were so high given the remainder of winter for that year. how did the 38/39 winter pan out?

welcome to the forum PG, hope you enjoy it :)

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  • Location: Newton Aycliffe, County Durham
  • Location: Newton Aycliffe, County Durham
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Oooh, now there's an omen.

Strange though that the record was set before GW, well before it. I wonder what temperature those exact synoptics would yield these days......a 22.5 or 23 perhaps. That would be incredible that would.

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Polar Continental Seasoned

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  • Location: South Derbyshire nr. Burton on Trent, Midlands, UK: alt 262 feet
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme winter cold,heavy bowing snow,freezing fog.Summer 2012
  • Location: South Derbyshire nr. Burton on Trent, Midlands, UK: alt 262 feet
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yes its quite suprising that the temps were so high given the remainder of winter for that year. how did the 38/39 winter pan out?

a good question for Mr Data to answer.

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SP1986

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
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Indeed it has Don.

Just for interest, here are the record coldest days of November

NOVEMBER

-23.3C -10F Braemar (Grampian) 14 Nov 1919

-22.8C - 9F Braemar 15 Nov 1919

-21.7C - 7F Perth (Tayside) 14 Nov 1919

-21.1C - 6F West Linton (Borders) 14 Nov 1919

-21.1C - 6F Balmoral (Grampian) 14 Nov 1919

-20.9C - 5.6F Kinbrace (Highland) 30 Nov 1985

Interesting that only the Scottish areas got the coldest temperatures, as opposed to later months where the likes a Shropshire featured. A sure sign that the PFJ tends to move southward quite quickly, but never early enough to make an impact on southern frost hollows. A bit of pattern matching might be of interest

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  • Location: W. Northants
  • Location: W. Northants
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38/39 was an exceptionally wet winter and pretty mild overall. However, there was a great cold spell through much of December 1938, and 1938 was a true White Christmas year, with most places having several inches of snow on the ground.

Early November warm spells really do mean absolutely nothing, either for November or for the coming winter, so theres no need to worry. Enjoy the mildness that coming up. We probably won't see temps of 17-18c again until March/April.

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  • Location: Putney, SW London. A miserable 14m asl....but nevertheless the lucky recipient of c 20cm of snow in 12 hours 1-2 Feb 2009!
  • Location: Putney, SW London. A miserable 14m asl....but nevertheless the lucky recipient of c 20cm of snow in 12 hours 1-2 Feb 2009!
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Interesting to see November 1946 up there with the record at 21.7c. Little did they know what would follow later that winter!

Absolutely....and by a splendid coincidence I find I have this photo of my mother standing in the middle of the main road in Whitford, just 6 miles from Prestatyn, on the 4th February 1947 - exactly three months after the Nov high record was set!!

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Enjoy - and dream!

Ossie

PS My father's diary records frustratingly sparse details of the trip back to London four days later:

"Left W(hitford) 10 a.m. Nearly stuck in snowdrifts. Train left Mostyn 45 mins late. Went by GWR fr(om) Chester. Arrd 6.20 p.m." A long journey - how would the trains fare nowadays, I wonder?

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  • Location: Reading/New York/Chicago
  • Location: Reading/New York/Chicago
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Indeed it has Don.

Just for interest, here are the record coldest days of November

NOVEMBER

-23.3C -10F Braemar (Grampian) 14 Nov 1919

-22.8C - 9F Braemar 15 Nov 1919

-21.7C - 7F Perth (Tayside) 14 Nov 1919

-21.1C - 6F West Linton (Borders) 14 Nov 1919

-21.1C - 6F Balmoral (Grampian) 14 Nov 1919

-20.9C - 5.6F Kinbrace (Highland) 30 Nov 1985

Interesting that only the Scottish areas got the coldest temperatures, as opposed to later months where the likes a Shropshire featured. A sure sign that the PFJ tends to move southward quite quickly, but never early enough to make an impact on southern frost hollows. A bit of pattern matching might be of interest

Some pretty impressive lows there!

Just for fun, I'll throw in the record low for my current location:

Helena, Montana - record -39oC on 16th November 1959. It seems that November 1959 had an extremely severe spell even for here:

November 4th: -21

November 5th: -21

November 12th: -29

November 13th: -37 (2nd coldest on record)

November 15th: -36

A particularly punishing period of weather it would seem and one of the top ten coldest on record. Incidentally, November 1985 was the coldest of all...

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The Enforcer

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  • Location: Abingdon - 55m ASL - Capital of The Central Southern England Corridor of Winter Convectionlessness
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Snow>Freezing Fog; Summer: Sun>Daytime Storms
  • Location: Abingdon - 55m ASL - Capital of The Central Southern England Corridor of Winter Convectionlessness
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We probably won't see temps of 17-18c again until March/April.

But the way our climate is going, who knows?

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