I Need Educating

[Sloopy]

It is years since I studied 'weather and climate' at school but the fascination has never left. Having spent the last few weeks enjoying all the information here I need to learn more so can anyone recommend any books, courses, websites where I can start as so much of the tech information here is totally beyond me and I want to understand at least some of it.

Thanks in advance

[johnholmes]

try our guides to start with then go to the Met O site=

www.metoffice.gov.uk I think

go to the education link and enjoy both NW and UK Met

ask any questions and one of us will try and answer any query you have

[sammie]

The met office guides are awesome I used them for revising for uni last semester haha.

Also try here:

http://www.theweatherprediction.com/

[Sloopy]

I think I am looking in the right place on the MO site but I can only find stuff for kids and teens, most of which I am reasonably OK with. The sort of thing I want to understand is

'a pretty stout cap in place an OFB from this mornings ongoing MCS '

I will take a look at the weather prediction site as well. Thanks

[johnholmes]

Sloopy a request

IF you use letters/acronyms etc PLEASE explain what they are-you may understand them others on the forum will not

thank you

re the Met O web site try the section for teachers

this is the link to it

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/education/teac...erstanding.html

is the Guide section on here any use to you?

Edited May 5, 2009 by johnholmes

[Sloopy]

Sloopy a request

IF you use letters/acronyms etc PLEASE explain what they are-you may understand them others on the forum will not

It's those that I don't understand!

I will take another look at the MetO site.

Thanks

[johnholmes]

'a pretty stout cap in place an OFB from this mornings ongoing MCS

you and me both

I am constantly asking everyone, unless its a very well known abbreviation to explain what they mean

cap= a lid or inversion preventing clouds building

OFB=your guess is as good as mine!

MCS= Multi-cell-storm(s)

good luck with your searching

these links in our Guides may help, its really just a matter of being patient and learning to walk before running-there is lots of information in NW and on other sites including that of the Met O or the US equivalent at NOAA

in the Guides these links may help

http://www.netweather.tv/forum/index.php?showforum=69

or this one

http://www.netweather.tv/forum/index.php?showtopic=46420

Edited May 5, 2009 by johnholmes

[multi cellular thunderstorm]

It's those that I don't understand!

I will take another look at the MetO site.

Thanks

Here's the link for the guides on the Met Office site...

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/libr...ides/index.html

Think i'll have a look at those myself

[chionomaniac]

I think I am looking in the right place on the MO site but I can only find stuff for kids and teens, most of which I am reasonably OK with. The sort of thing I want to understand is

'a pretty stout cap in place an OFB from this mornings ongoing MCS '

I will take a look at the weather prediction site as well. Thanks

"a pretty stout cap in place an out flow boundary from this mornings ongoing multi cell storm system"

Hi Sloopy, I think the guides you need to read are the storm chasers guides found below:

http://www.netweather.tv/forum/index.php?showtopic=37775

These are top class from NF.

c

[Sloopy]

Oh thanks everyone, I think I have plenty to read now. I had totally missed the guides on here, too tied up with virtual storm chasing I think.

Just as well I have a holiday soon - I see a little light reading coming on

[Nick F]

OFB = Outflow Boundary. Where outflow from a storm area, often an MCS (Multi-cellular Storm) creates a trough and convergence when air pushes out against prevailing sfc flow and often is the focus for storms to develop. Can happen in the UK in summer too.

Cap = basically where a layer of relatively warm air aloft, usually in the 850 - 700mb layer prevents parcels of air rising and creating convection due the parcels not becoming warmer than the surrounding air in that warm layer as they rise. Parcels will only rise and create convective cloud if they are warmer than the surrounding air it rises through - taking in account a parcel will cool aswell as it rises. High temperatures or strong forcing mechanism may over come the cap and allow thunderstorms to develop.

[Old Style]

Sloopy... I think you might have seen those abbreviations in the "Storm Chase USA 2009" discussion. In weather terminology here in the US, MCS means "mesoscale convective system". Of course, a mesoscale convective system is basically another way to describe a Multi-cellular Storm; so I guess it really doesn't matter which defination that you use.

[Terminal Moraine]

It is years since I studied 'weather and climate' at school but the fascination has never left. Having spent the last few weeks enjoying all the information here I need to learn more so can anyone recommend any books, courses, websites where I can start as so much of the tech information here is totally beyond me and I want to understand at least some of it.

Thanks in advance

With regard to books, try and get a copy of 'Climate and the British Scene' by Gordon Manley; it's an old book but a classic and will give you a good grounding on the basics of meteorology and how the weather and climate relates to society in general.

Another good one, and more recent, is 'Climates of the British Isles' edited by Mike Hulme and Elaine Barrow and published by Routledge; a wealth of information in there.

[johnholmes]

With regard to books, try and get a copy of 'Climate and the British Scene' by Gordon Manley; it's an old book but a classic and will give you a good grounding on the basics of meteorology and how the weather and climate relates to society in general.

ah Gordon Manley-voices from the past-wonderful

[Terminal Moraine]

ah Gordon Manley-voices from the past-wonderful

Couldn't agree more, John. Climate and the British Scene is the most read book in my collection, I never tire of it.

His obvious enthusiasm for the subject, his perceptiveness and, what I can only describe as, an air of Britishness, is second to none.

[Sloopy]

I managed to find the Gordon Manley one on Amazon for 0.75p!

Picture me lazing by the pool in Florida in a few weeks time, reading about British climate and hoping for the odd afternoon t'storm.

Thanks again

Edited May 6, 2009 by Sloopy