Southern England

[liam300]

Hi Guys,

Like i said im new to tyhe board.

Thought i'd ask why its excessively different in temperature between the midlands/scotland and southern england?

Many Thanks

Liam

[Stratocumulus perlucidus]

Because were closer to the N/pole

[A Winter's Tale]

Scotland is nearer the north pole and is more likely to get cooler weather than Southern England although quite often during some cold spells, autumn and spring scotland could be the warmest place in the UK. Also much of Scotland is pretty rugged and has a geography that suits colder weather.

[liam300]

Because were closer to the N/pole

Ok state the obvious, i was thinking more along the lines of high / low pressure.

Scotland is nearer the north pole and is more likely to get cooler weather than Southern England although quite often during some cold spells, autumn and spring scotland could be the warmest place in the UK. Also much of Scotland is pretty rugged and has a geography that suits colder weather.

Thanks for the reply..

What sort of conditions would needed to encourage colder weather in the south. Apart from a cold blast from the n/pole.

[Staffordshire]

Hey fella welcome, hope you enjoy your stay. An easterly can be one way of colder weather to the south ecspecially the south east it also can bring copius amounts of snow!

Ok state the obvious, i was thinking more along the lines of high / low pressure.

Thanks for the reply..

What sort of conditions would needed to encourage colder weather in the south. Apart from a cold blast from the n/pole.

[liam300]

Hey fella welcome, hope you enjoy your stay. An easterly can be one way of colder weather to the south ecspecially the south east it also can bring copius amounts of snow!

Thanks fore the welcome, learning a lot so dont mind my inexperience.

If and when it happens will look forward to some snow, Last year it came north easterly is that correct?

[Kiwi]

We're nearer the south pole ....but not sure if that helps. :lol:

A channel low pulling in a nice easterly always goes down well in this part of the south.

[Crepuscular Ray]

Welcome Liam. With time you'll learn who the clever-cloggses are and to ignore them.

[A Winter's Tale]

The best set up for parts of the South East is a "beasterly" from Scandinavia.

But other brilliant set ups for snow in the South are:

1) A bartlett - Renowned for it's amazing and record breaking no. of snow days per month

2) A northerly/north easterly/ north westerly - Polar Lows, streamers, absolutely brillinat for snow

3) A Southerly Plume - You would see some incredibly amazing record breaking winter temperatures

4) Cold Zonality - What else could you ask for

I will inform you that the Daily Express and Daily Mail are essential for finding out the latest on cold weather! Some forecasters to follow also include the young, part-time athlete and model - the one and only Piers Corbyn and the great James Madden who has been so accurate recently.

You should also keep an eye on BBC Weather 24 hour forecast and if it says light snow at 3am, stay up and stare at any nearest lampost for the snow.

I also advise you to express all your thoughts and updates on winter on the "Model Thread" - You would be give an warm welcome!!!!

But remember - Look out for a bartlett in terms of cold and snow. It's an amazing event and actually not all that rare!

[Lynxus]

A channel low pulling in a nice easterly always goes down well in this part of the south.

Is a good bet for cooler air down south. A low pressure spins anti-clockwise , So if its south of us, It will pull in air from the NE / East.

The cooler air we are getting at the moment is coming from the NW but because our air is normally coming from the west, its just damp and mild due to the ocean.

There are sooooo many factors as to why we have differing temps. But as others have said. Its because the north is more north than the south

[Crepuscular Ray]

The best set up for parts of the South East is a "beasterly" from Scandinavia.

But other brilliant set ups for snow in the South are:

1) A bartlett - Renowned for it's amazing and record breaking no. of snow days per month

2) A northerly/north easterly/ north westerly - Polar Lows, streamers, absolutely brillinat for snow

3) A Southerly Plume - You would see some incredibly amazing record breaking winter temperatures

4) Cold Zonality - What else could you ask for

I will inform you that the Daily Express and Daily Mail are essential for finding out the latest on cold weather! Some forecasters to follow also include the young, part-time athlete and model - the one and only Piers Corbyn and the great James Madden who has been so accurate recently.

You should also keep an eye on BBC Weather 24 hour forecast and if it says light snow at 3am, stay up and stare at any nearest lampost for the snow.

I also advise you to express all your thoughts and updates on winter on the "Model Thread" - You would be give an warm welcome!!!!

But remember - Look out for a bartlett in terms of cold and snow. It's an amazing event and actually not all that rare!

Take this bunch of responses and anything like it (especially the idiotic ones you've received so far) with a very large pinch of salt. For some reason, best known to themselves, several members who should know better appear to have chosen to take the Mick out of a newcomer to the site. Pathetic.

Edited December 2, 2011 by crepuscular ray

[Mark Neal.]

Welcome Aboard Liam! Hopefully you will find the Netweather Forum helpful like i have done. Never be afraid of asking questions as we all at somepoint want a answer to something. Enjoy.

Edited December 2, 2011 by Mark Neal Ballooning

[Isolated Frost]

It all really depends on the synoptics.

Mild west or south west winds originate from the 30-40 N latitude and usually southern and south western england are closest to the dominant mild air under west and south west winds and therefore are usually milder.

Under cold north or north west winds the air originates from either the arctic or canada or the north atlantic at 60 or 70 N. This means the north and west are closest to the cold air and get the brunt of it, while its modified and in SE England, the cold air is less potent.

Under very warm south or south east (mainly in summer) winds, again the south is closest to the warm air and is therefore warmer than much of Scotland usually.

However, during east or possibly north east winds, the south can be coldest in winter as it comes off a cold continent and often high pressure is near scotland so the coldest upper air flows into southern england... the 'beasterly' can deliver extremely frigid air towards england and wales especially- and east anglia and the south east are closest to that cold air and so bare the brunt of very cold temperatures and heavy snowfalls.

Also to note the sea temperatures on the south coast and across south west england are often much milder than in scotland.

[Dorsetbred]

Liam, welcome I'm sure you'll lean loads and more as a resident.

Not sure where you so commenting on an ingress of colder air for any snow might be different for you.

For us central southern coasties, then the channel low with a easterly is the best bet.

Anything from the North has generally dried out by the time it reaches the coast.

I've placed my order for a channel low, in for late Jan.

[Jane Louise]

Hi ya Liam300, A warm welcome to Netweather Could you please pop your location in your profile so we know where you're from.

Thank you.

[Coast]

Welcome Liam. With time you'll learn who the clever-cloggses are and to ignore them.

Or join in with them ?

Welcome Liam, you may find the learning area a good place to start for some basic, and not so basic tips:

http://forum.netweather.tv/forum/24-learning-about-weather-and-meteorology/

[liam300]

Thanks for all your help and welcome guys

Will add my location now if you guys want to review the opportunity for snow.

Edited December 3, 2011 by liam300

[liam300]

Was looking at Wind Direction for friday evening - http://www.xcweather.co.uk/GB/forecast

Looks like its trying to be driven from the north east slightly any opinion guys?

[Dorsetbred]

Was looking at Wind Direction for friday evening - http://www.xcweather.co.uk/GB/forecast

Looks like its trying to be driven from the north east slightly any opinion guys?

Yeah it'll be a a Noreaster, unlike the US NorEaster

Apologies, not really meaning to be flippant.

Right now the air is still way too mild for anything from the Northeast, it'll need to cool off a bit before that really brings anything down to the Sarf Coast, even for Pompey, who seem a darn sight luckier than us Dorsetites.

[liam300]

Yeah it'll be a a Noreaster, unlike the US NorEaster

Apologies, not really meaning to be flippant.

Right now the air is still way too mild for anything from the Northeast, it'll need to cool off a bit before that really brings anything down to the Sarf Coast, even for Pompey, who seem a darn sight luckier than us Dorsetites.

Not sure in comparison.

Doesn't look like were going to get any snow over December not cold enough